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planets I'm you know Jimmy Church

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what is crack and everybody how you

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that's right cuz we've had an amazing

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guest Clifford stone is here that's

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right Clifford stone on disclosure

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that's what we're gonna do tonight and

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now that is about to happen tonight and

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all of the documents every one that we

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are over a Jimmy Church radio.com

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and through our flurry there's a lot of

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documents a lot of stuff to do and they

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should all be good to go I didn't check

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finishing things up but they should all

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what you've got to do okay I wonder how

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breaking news on Krispy Kreme Doughnuts

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mm-hmm yep Krispy Kreme once again once

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in the Talk Like a Pirate Day

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19th holiday today by giving away free

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donuts to customers who walked in

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dressed like a pirate free donuts talk

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like your favorite pirate

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doughnuts not anymore two years in a row

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I'm gonna have to continue with my fast

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dart diet that I am on yeah

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lost a lot of weight can you tell how do

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I've lost I've lost a lot of weight and

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I am on the fast start diet and you can

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go and find fast are tired over on

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it's a fasting diet but you know

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everybody knows about fasting so this is

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a fast start diet that combines things

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and starts to prepare you for a fasting

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future for yourself and you can figure

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things out but those three days are a

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game-changer they really are they really

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are the first days rough first days

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like okay it's it's not going to be that

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like wow this stuff really really worked

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fast our diets a three-day diet

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are no advertising no games and nothing

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beautiful on stellar gov yesterday

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throw out a two hundred and eighty nine

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a dollar jury verdict awarded to Dwayne

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Johnson not the rock but another Dwayne

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glyphosate based weed killers including

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roundup gave him cancer and a jury

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decided that Monsanto was guilty the

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company said in motions filed in San

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Francisco Superior Court of California

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that the jury's decision was not

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supported by the evidence presented at

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trial Johnson's case filed in 2016 was

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severity of his non-hodgkins lymphoma a

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cancer of the lymph system that was

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some other big news google has announced

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they will merge most of its dedicated

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features with the main YouTube site and

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app YouTube is where more than now check

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to say YouTube is where more than 200

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gamers that's right

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that they watched

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over 50 billion hours of gaming content

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my god that's why in March 2019 Google

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will retire the YouTube gaming app and

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birthday - today Twiggy Twiggy is 69

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years old now for those of you that

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don't know who Twiggy is and it's a

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possibility you know I understand it's a

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generational thing Twiggy Slade in the

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Blues Brothers alright a lot of people

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remember her from that but it's not when

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I think of Twiggy I don't think of the

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Blues Brothers anymore

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I think of club

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paradise one of my favorite funniest

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movies of all time and Twiggy was

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amazing in that happy birthday Twiggy

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today she is 69 our dead guys birthday

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today short and sweet

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Adam West 1928 to 2017 made it all the

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way to the double 8 88 years old the og

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Batman original gangsta that's it that's

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all I got when it comes Adam was right

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there

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the oh gee Batman I had still the best

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series it's just like Star Trek

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you know Batman and all of the others

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too III understand that man but that's

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that's not what endeared is to Batman

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you know today no it's the original

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series the original series Robin and

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Catwoman and the Joker right the penguin

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the original Star Trek the original

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series that's that's the Star Trek for

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me okay all right I'm his date in

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history OTD 1957 the United States

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detonates a 1.7 kiloton nuclear weapon

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Nevada Test Site 65 miles north of Las

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Vegas one hour drive one hour outside of

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Las Vegas shockwaves were felt all the

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way to Alaska on this day in 1957 Fader

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fact stubs was the mayor of Talkeetna

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Alaska from July 1997 until his death in

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July of 2017 stubs was a cat and

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it's your fader fact got his own

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Wikipedia page to Stubb's the cat he was

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called Stubbs because the the they had a

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a box full of kittens that the store

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owner gave away one kitten was left

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stubs and they named him Stubbs because

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his tail was short yeah so they call him

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Stubbs and he became mayor so there you

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go that's a fader fact it's been vetted

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too tonight Clifford stone is here we're

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gonna talk disclosure and now all of the

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documents that we are gonna discuss

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tonight are over at Jimmy Church

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radio.com you may download them you may

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keep them you may share them with the

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world

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Clifford has been to discovering finding

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searching through the Freedom of

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Information Act and his other sources

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for documents for decades and decades

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this is part of his collection of

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documents and these reach back a long

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ways and we're gonna talk about

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disclosure today and did it almost

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happen before okay we're gonna talk

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about this and these are the documents

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too that are going to support everything

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that we are going to discuss tonight on

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the show it's going to be an amazing

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amazing conversation tomorrow's another

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Fator night open lines all night long

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john Rappaport's good to be here where

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there's no more fake newsroom live

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followed by open lines okay so there you

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go it's been an amazing week now listen

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to me today q and on answered this

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question question posted was questions

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was did NASA faked the moon landings

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have we been to the moon since then are

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there secret space programs

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is this why the space force was created

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and queuing on answered with this and I

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quote false moon landings are real

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programs exist that are outside of

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public domain end quote

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signed Q now o as I said that to net

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just posted up some other stuff this is

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on September 19th from Q I didn't get to

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this one to net but thank you

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q are we alone Roswell answer no highest

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classification consider the vastness of

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space Q yep and now there has been day

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you know a Mike you know I am NOT Q okay

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so let's let's just clear that up right

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now

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certainly these are answers that I could

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possibly give but isn't it interesting

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now but through all of the Q stuff I

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have not I've only checked Q out when

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I've been sent Q material no no that's

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not even that's not even true but the

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only Q material let me say this

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correctly the only Q material that I

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have checked out is the material that

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has been sent to me today nuno

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bettencourt is 51 years old really I

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took all his money in one night in poker

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in Memphis that's a that's a whole

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nother story now I've only checked out Q

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stuff that has been sent to me not all

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of it

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and I I understand how and where it gets

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posted but that would take up that would

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take up the rest of my life let alone

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the rest of my day

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spending time over there doing it

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I depend on others to send this stuff to

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me when it's relevant now as far as I

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know and you guys can there's everybody

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knows more about Q than I do okay so I'm

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no Q expert but as far as I know is this

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the first time that Q has alluded to a

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secret space program is this the first

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time that this has happened is this the

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first time Q has talked ET and aliens

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and Roswell you know and I don't know

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who was posting the questions to Q this

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are are we alone is from anonymous right

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that's from anonymous so I don't know I

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don't know whose I'm not I'm not sending

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the questions in and this other one is

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from anonymous too okay so these were

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sent to me earlier and thank you for

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posting them it has Q done any more as

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there any has there been any other

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postings

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since these about et or Roswell or the

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secret space program I don't know so if

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they have post them up there on Twitter

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and I'll catch them but anyway this is

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what I find interesting q I don't have

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any inside information but I have I have

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some pretty dependable sources and one

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in particular that I've talked to about

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Q that I wasn't surprised that this

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person knew about Q but this person is

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so outside of our UFO community in and

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so forth but Q out there in the

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mainstream has only caught on in the

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last few weeks right where you're

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getting these mentions of Q in the

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mainstream media and stuff it's always

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been part of our conspiracy community

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but I was told that and I could be way

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wrong here so don't you know just just

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save it if you've got a theory on who Q

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is stick with it okay if you think you

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know you have definitive proof

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as to who queue is or mayor or group or

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whatever then stay with it because you

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don't know any more than I do that's

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what it comes to that is that queue was

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a singular person inside of the White

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House

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part of the administration and then that

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queue is no longer posting as queue and

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that now queue still may have elements

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inside of the White House but it's a

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group it's now a group it's it's it's

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it's a collective Nazi and again I don't

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know I'm not some queue expert I'm just

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I can use the word allegedly or whatever

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might be and but getting into this

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conversation going from the other

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subjects that have been covered and and

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jumping into this is pretty interesting

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so these answers are our community-based

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does that make sense

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these are answers that come from those

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in the know inside of our community yeah

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to say that programs exist that are

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outside of the public domain and the the

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moon landings are real that's that's a

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pretty interesting comment that comes

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from somebody that is well researched

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inside of our community does comment

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about Roswell

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you know Roswell is something that is in

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side of our community outside of our

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community yeah you know you're you're

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gonna it was mentioned in Independence

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Day and it's kind of gotten out there

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and but but most people in the public

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don't know about Roswell most don't it

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may be the most famous case inside of

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our community that everybody knows

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everything about but getting out to

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another 7.49 billion people on this

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planet don't know about Roswell need to

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think about that for a second so what is

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Q doing

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with the Roswell knowledge what is Q

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doing with is the secret space program

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knowledge the Apollo fake moon landings

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this is this shifts it for me a little

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bit it does I mean are there people this

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and this is where you need to go with me

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are there people inside of the White

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House that that know about the fake moon

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landings or it being a hoax and Kubrick

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to the secret space program right to

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Roswell and are we alone in the universe

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consider the vastness of space now we've

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got a very unique individual if they are

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inside of the White House walking around

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with those thoughts I'm leaning away

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from that I'm leaning away and wondering

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if Q is somebody that is from inside of

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our community yeah yep yep and so I've

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got a lot of a queue and ion followers I

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get a lot of queuing on email and just

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like anybody else if you want to reach

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out to me and and clarify things fine

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you want to keep the mystery out there

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fine whatever doesn't matter but I read

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this and I'm just like wait a minute

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here you know we got to pump the brakes

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we got a pump the brakes and like

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consider what's going on now for those

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inside of our community you read this go

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oh okay yeah q okay all right Q gets it

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what wait a minute do you understand how

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I am taking a look at this okay this is

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stuff that that we hold near and dear

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inside of our community and the people

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are out there walking around outside of

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our community with this kind of

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knowledge and they can just talk about

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it like this and there's supposed to be

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a government insider trying to change

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the world I got to back up a little bit

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all right okay so that's that's my take

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on this today it's very interesting and

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now one other one other point

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q and on is being read by a lot of

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people outside of our community now okay

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it was just this little conspiracy thing

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that was bouncing around and on Reddit

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and forms but it's not the case anymore

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okay so a lot of people are reading this

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and I thought that we were in the safe

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zone when it came to queueing on because

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this stuff wasn't discussed kind of bums

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me out

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this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

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Church tonight Clifford stone is here we

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are discussing disclosure all of his

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documents that we will be discussing

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tonight are posted up over at Jimmy

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Church radio.com tonight it's on the

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home page after tonight or after this

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week search Clifford stone if you're

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listening to this later and then the

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links will be up there tomorrow night is

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Fator night John wrap reports gonna be

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here open lines all night long Friday

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night I'm off Saturday night I'm over at

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coast-to-coast am and my guest is Jason

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Louvre there you go this is fade to

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black I'm gonna get out of here get

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right back with our guest tonight mr.

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Clifford stone you can follow me on

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twitter at Jay Church radio simple email

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is Jimmy at jimmy church radio.com the

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sandbox is hashtag f2b and faded black

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questions right there

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hashtag f2b q who do you think is Q who

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do you think it's fake they are not on

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the white house it's a huge troll and a

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Berra thinks Q maybe JFK jr. who's Berra

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Oh Mike Berra whatever happened to that

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dude I'll be here

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tonight it is Clifford stone and we are

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going to discuss his entire life of

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research and involvement with UFOs and

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recovery and and disclosure and he has

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one of the largest collections of

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Freedom of Information Act documents

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portion of those tonight are posted over

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at Jimmy Church radio.com and today our

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community is talking about disclosure

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:35:57,480
more than ever before but how close are

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we to actual government revealing the

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truth right about UFOs Vitti how close

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were we to this happening in the past

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this isn't the first time that we have

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gone through this tonight Clifford will

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bring forward his information and

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documents that reveal how the United

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States government and our military was

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ready and willing to announce to the

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public that et was here and contact had

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already been made he is a decorated

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Vietnam combat veteran he served 22

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years he claims that he led a double

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life from the late 1960s through his

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retirement in

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90 while officially assigned to an NBC

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teen nuclear biological and chemical

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00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:45,510
retrieval and abatement detail he says

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00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:48,930
that he served on top secret UFO crash

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00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:51,540
retrieval missions where he had physical

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contact with downed ET craft and

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interactions with captured non-human

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life-forms the official mbc team

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assignment allegedly served as a cover

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for those highly secretive and

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compartmentalized operations over a

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00:37:10,340 --> 00:37:08,790
period of nearly 40 years he has amassed

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one of the largest private collections

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of authentic government documents

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clearly established me establishing the

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hard reality of the UFO phenomenon and I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black the one and only Clifford stone

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Clifford

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good evening man how are you thank you

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and you know a much respect and every

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00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:34,830
time that I'm around you or we're on the

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00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:37,860
air you know you address me as sir and

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and I and that's great Clifford it's

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just me Jimmy okay so and and but your

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your outlook on life and your discipline

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is is just amazing to me

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and I want to say one thing I don't even

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know if you remember this but probably

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three or four years ago I was out

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00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:03,690
speaking at the Roswell festival in

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00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:06,210
Roswell and you were speaking there too

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and I I snuck up and and sat in the back

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and listen to you speak and it was one

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00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:19,500
of the most compelling events that I had

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00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:21,840
been to and I couldn't control myself

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00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:24,720
and I jumped up in front of everybody

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00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:26,220
there and walked up to you said Clifford

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let's do coast-to-coast this Saturday

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00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:30,420
and he said absolutely and I walked out

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the door and you were on coast with me

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00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:35,640
that week and that's just how you are do

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00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:38,520
you even remember that happening oh yeah

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00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:40,620
I remember yeah it was pretty cool

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00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:43,290
pretty cool I was thinking about it

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00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:45,510
though I couldn't control you know

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00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:46,980
there's certain times in the I just

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Clifford you you were just so dynamic

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and I was and he's got to be heard you

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00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:54,869
know he has got to be heard and that's

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why you are here tonight

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so before we get started Clifford how

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00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:03,420
are you doing how's your health how is

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00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:09,180
life mmm my wife she's getting worse

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00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:14,100
she's sick she had a severe stroke and

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00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:16,200
of course I had a double I had a double

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00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:19,470
bypass and right now they're checking

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00:39:24,109 --> 00:39:22,070
for some other medical complications so

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00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:24,119
for the last three weeks

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00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:28,470
Daly aye I've been gone to see a doctor

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00:39:34,340 --> 00:39:30,450
either to be a hospital in Albuquerque

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00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,350
or Artesia or a doctor here and my wife

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00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:37,920
is the one a lot of times to for her

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00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:42,060
medical situations so I always say my

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00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:44,340
time is limited but I need to get this

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00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:45,930
and for me particularly what we're going

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00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:48,810
to be talking about tonight I'm people

723
00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:50,730
need to know exactly what happened how

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00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:53,340
close it came to the food coming out

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00:40:01,099 --> 00:39:59,490
well Clifford first off you need to take

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00:40:03,650 --> 00:40:01,109
care of yourself and your wife and your

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00:40:06,590 --> 00:40:03,660
family you know you're too important to

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00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:06,600
this community and and we need you so

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00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,670
our thoughts and our prayers are right

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00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:11,760
there with you and we'll send out the

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big the big wave of love your way and

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00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:16,320
hopefully you'll feel that tonight but

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00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:19,530
we need you man you know so so just just

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00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:21,900
take care of yourself okay so thank you

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00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:26,180
and there you go all right now let's

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let's talk a little bit about today

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00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:35,490
before we move backwards the last ten

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00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:39,840
months or so since December 16 2017

739
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,750
we've had a wave of UFO disclosure and

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00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:48,240
conversations in the mainstream media

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00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:50,280
that started with the New York Times in

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00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:52,530
the Washington Post and went around to

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00:40:57,019 --> 00:40:55,260
all of the mainstream television and

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00:40:59,449 --> 00:40:57,029
print

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00:41:05,179 --> 00:40:59,459
internet media everywhere was talking

746
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:05,189
about UFOs it now probably the most

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00:41:13,489 --> 00:41:09,119
exposure that has ever been and going

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00:41:16,189 --> 00:41:13,499
back to the early 1950s through that UFO

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00:41:19,669 --> 00:41:16,199
wave that that was a pretty big period

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00:41:24,289 --> 00:41:19,679
but today was it was pretty dynamic and

751
00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:24,299
nobody alive today has ever seen anybody

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00:41:28,579 --> 00:41:25,829
that wasn't around back then clifford

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00:41:31,789 --> 00:41:28,589
has no idea this was the most coverage

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00:41:36,259 --> 00:41:31,799
that they've ever seen how did that make

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00:41:39,019 --> 00:41:36,269
you feel finally having modern

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00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:39,029
mainstream media discussing the UFO

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00:41:45,469 --> 00:41:41,880
topic and contact like they did over the

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00:41:48,949 --> 00:41:45,479
last ten months well we made me feel

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00:41:52,249 --> 00:41:48,959
good but the exception of one thing why

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00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:52,259
didn't meet mainstream media pursue it

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00:41:59,929 --> 00:41:57,049
more they dropped it I mean they totally

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00:42:03,319 --> 00:41:59,939
just let it go by the wayside even

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00:42:12,349 --> 00:42:03,329
though they had key documents key people

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it was talking the CIA's dia the eitc

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00:42:16,549 --> 00:42:15,119
all of these people they tried to

766
00:42:18,649 --> 00:42:16,559
downplay their job but they had

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00:42:21,429 --> 00:42:18,659
documents and of course they didn't use

768
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:21,439
the term UFO they were using the term

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advanced unconventional aircraft which

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is why the gentleman I can't and I never

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00:42:33,620 --> 00:42:29,880
can remember his name when he was

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00:42:35,749 --> 00:42:33,630
talking about him being party to this

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00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:35,759
where they were gathering information on

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00:42:44,059 --> 00:42:41,209
these advanced unconventional aircraft

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00:42:46,099 --> 00:42:44,069
he went ahead and stated this is what

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00:42:47,779 --> 00:42:46,109
they were calling them and one of the

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00:42:51,859 --> 00:42:47,789
reporters on one of the major TV

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00:42:55,459 --> 00:42:51,869
stations asked him point-blank do you

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:55,469
believe that some of these objects of

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00:43:03,349 --> 00:42:59,130
these aircraft are of extraterrestrial

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origin and he very carefully chose how

782
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,789
he answered he said in my opinion I do

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00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:11,040
believe some of these

784
00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:15,540
our extraterrestrial origin and the

785
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:18,180
whole situation is they say that they

786
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:21,150
started this and not what 2002 and ended

787
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:25,530
into 2012 it's been going on for a long

788
00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:30,660
time and you know just recently and I

789
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:33,080
think that's because we heard the terms

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00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:35,700
the CIA started to release some

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00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:36,930
documentation on it

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00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:40,380
dia which the gentleman in question was

793
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:42,060
really working for at the time means

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00:43:48,350 --> 00:43:44,760
that his involvement started to release

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00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,360
some information minimal information has

796
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:50,640
been released by Department of Defense

797
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:55,010
and one of the congressional offices

798
00:44:01,370 --> 00:43:58,170
they released some information but it's

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very limited they really didn't want to

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00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:03,000
discuss it which is why I'm not naming

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00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:06,030
the congressional office but the whole

802
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,030
situation is is that there was a major

803
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:11,280
effort where all this is coming out now

804
00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:14,280
what happened was they had that film

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00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:17,630
footage it was released all the major

806
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:24,510
networks stated they got that Navy film

807
00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:27,560
footage from the Department of Defense

808
00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:31,020
what a lot of people aren't aware of the

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00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:34,950
Department of Defense denied this and I

810
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:37,410
honestly believe and I'll say in my

811
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,020
opinion that Department of Defense is

812
00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:43,680
lying about that and I would love to

813
00:44:49,820 --> 00:44:46,680
seen just one of the major networks take

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exception and immediately state that

815
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:51,900
whoa wait a minute we got it from you

816
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:52,380
people

817
00:45:03,200 --> 00:44:55,290
what do you mean that you never released

818
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:03,210
it the the communications officer for

819
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:08,160
the Pentagon did come out and she said

820
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:11,400
well a couple of it was almost like she

821
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:16,200
said contradicted herself but she

822
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:20,790
clearly said that the the the the

823
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:22,770
project wasn't named this it was named

824
00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:24,900
this that was the first thing the second

825
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:27,900
thing that she said was that we have not

826
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:30,570
authorized the release of any videos

827
00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:33,630
right and then there was something else

828
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:36,470
that came out a little bit more generic

829
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:40,890
that if they were to be released it

830
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:43,140
wouldn't be through this department so

831
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:47,160
that was kind of a weird thing to say I

832
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:50,640
mean it was so cut and dried before the

833
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:52,020
in the other statement that other

834
00:46:00,770 --> 00:45:55,050
statement left like a door open for this

835
00:46:05,450 --> 00:46:00,780
and I there was a nice effort to squelch

836
00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:05,460
the story back in 46 but we did we went

837
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:10,590
ahead and cused Sweden and Denmark lying

838
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:13,770
about their ghost rockets and stating

839
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,530
that only reason they were talking about

840
00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:17,760
these are even bringing them up is

841
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:21,030
because they wanted more radar equipment

842
00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:24,540
from us that was a total out-and-out lie

843
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:27,900
behind the scenes we had first you know

844
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:29,430
many of these people were on the

845
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:31,590
Robinson panel which we'll probably talk

846
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:33,810
about later on but they were involved

847
00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:36,570
trying to find the ghost rockets doing

848
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:38,100
the telemetry where they thought they

849
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,710
should crash they grow there there's

850
00:46:44,590 --> 00:46:42,960
nothing there which means this was

851
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:44,600
something that was flying in the air

852
00:46:49,070 --> 00:46:47,670
didn't crash and continue to go the

853
00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:49,080
reason they were looking for the crash

854
00:46:57,530 --> 00:46:52,620
is was the initially thought that they

855
00:46:59,770 --> 00:46:57,540
were b1 v2 rockets that was being

856
00:47:02,380 --> 00:46:59,780
launched by the former Soviet states

857
00:47:05,810 --> 00:47:02,390
intensifying these went off course and

858
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:05,820
went into Sweden and Denmark now with

859
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:09,770
that being said one we knew then that

860
00:47:16,190 --> 00:47:12,750
these were were not illusions when they

861
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:16,200
were real objects initially we thought

862
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:19,650
they were Soviet origin where they were

863
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:22,470
testing v1 v2 is just like we were here

864
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:25,500
in the state but the one key point was

865
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:27,900
if that was the case we would have found

866
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:29,390
debris because they would have crashed

867
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:33,210
we didn't find that so we were still

868
00:47:38,779 --> 00:47:36,990
looking for what these objects were but

869
00:47:41,509 --> 00:47:38,789
when the media here in America

870
00:47:44,929 --> 00:47:41,519
start to pick up on what happened in 46

871
00:47:47,989 --> 00:47:44,939
as a result of the June 24th Kenneth

872
00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:47,999
Arnold UFO sighting they immediately

873
00:47:55,279 --> 00:47:52,109
went ahead and called foul on the Sweden

874
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:55,289
and Denmark and this later on would

875
00:48:05,120 --> 00:47:58,890
actually lead to a problem with the CIA

876
00:48:08,539 --> 00:48:05,130
and the FBI the the version of

877
00:48:10,959 --> 00:48:08,549
disclosure today Clifford I want your

878
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:10,969
definition of that disclosure can mean

879
00:48:16,999 --> 00:48:14,160
anything to anybody and it certainly

880
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:17,009
it's whatever their interest is it

881
00:48:25,429 --> 00:48:20,910
doesn't necessarily have to mean UFOs or

882
00:48:30,499 --> 00:48:25,439
et but disclosure inside of our

883
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:30,509
community is not any type of drip drip

884
00:48:35,029 --> 00:48:32,249
or the media or anything else the only

885
00:48:37,339 --> 00:48:35,039
thing that they will accept is the

886
00:48:39,579 --> 00:48:37,349
President of the United States stepping

887
00:48:42,049 --> 00:48:39,589
up to a podium live on television saying

888
00:48:44,989 --> 00:48:42,059
we've made contact we've been making

889
00:48:47,659 --> 00:48:44,999
contact et is real we are not alone in

890
00:48:49,759 --> 00:48:47,669
the universe and until that happens disc

891
00:48:51,319 --> 00:48:49,769
that anything else is just not

892
00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:51,329
disclosure it's what they're already

893
00:48:59,749 --> 00:48:56,029
used to what what is disclosure for you

894
00:49:01,640 --> 00:48:59,759
disclosure for me is getting the

895
00:49:08,029 --> 00:49:01,650
documentation out that clearly shows

896
00:49:11,089 --> 00:49:08,039
something's going on and that we get to

897
00:49:13,939 --> 00:49:11,099
the point that a text where they can no

898
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:13,949
longer deny what the documentation is

899
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:17,569
saying and eventually come out and say

900
00:49:23,089 --> 00:49:21,089
okay you know for security reasons and

901
00:49:26,779 --> 00:49:23,099
that's what they're going to say we have

902
00:49:29,899 --> 00:49:26,789
had to keep this under wraps but now we

903
00:49:32,479 --> 00:49:29,909
feel you have a need to know but we want

904
00:49:34,189 --> 00:49:32,489
to make sure that it's being handled to

905
00:49:37,429 --> 00:49:34,199
the point where you realize there's

906
00:49:38,749 --> 00:49:37,439
nothing to fear from this and at that

907
00:49:44,209 --> 00:49:38,759
point it's going to break and I can tell

908
00:49:46,699 --> 00:49:44,219
you right now that within the UFO realm

909
00:49:49,339 --> 00:49:46,709
within the US government and other

910
00:49:51,439 --> 00:49:49,349
governments included you have some

911
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:51,449
people that are in control of the UFO

912
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:52,680
information

913
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:55,290
the really powerful people are still

914
00:50:00,440 --> 00:49:57,930
keeping it under wraps but there's a

915
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,450
major effort and the nations that are

916
00:50:04,220 --> 00:50:03,240
involved in trying to get this

917
00:50:07,460 --> 00:50:04,230
information

918
00:50:10,580 --> 00:50:07,470
slowly but surely out to where

919
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:10,590
eventually we can go ahead and draw a

920
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:13,080
picture and say okay here's what's been

921
00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:14,760
going on and it's still going on today

922
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,150
in the intelligence community you have

923
00:50:24,310 --> 00:50:20,460
what's called counter intelligence

924
00:50:27,860 --> 00:50:24,320
analysts these people have to take 10%

925
00:50:30,010 --> 00:50:27,870
of the intelligence data coming in on a

926
00:50:32,180 --> 00:50:30,020
potential threat to the US government

927
00:50:34,210 --> 00:50:32,190
I'm using the US government because I

928
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:34,220
know more about it than the other

929
00:50:42,070 --> 00:50:39,210
governments but they take that 10% with

930
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:42,080
that 10% they have to go ahead and

931
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:45,330
create the whole picture they have to go

932
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:48,540
ahead and accurately fill in the other

933
00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:53,040
90% now once that happens then it's said

934
00:50:57,770 --> 00:50:55,560
to their customers in in the field and

935
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:57,780
they make the decisions on what to do

936
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:00,000
with it and you know we don't even have

937
00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:02,310
to go to the UFOs on that all we have to

938
00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,840
do is go to Ted of 1968 the FBI in March

939
00:51:11,090 --> 00:51:09,540
of this year released

940
00:51:14,030 --> 00:51:11,100
literally several thousand documents

941
00:51:18,110 --> 00:51:14,040
showing we all knew what was going to

942
00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:18,120
happen in tatah 68 but we felt that you

943
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:21,660
know it can't be we rejected it even

944
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:23,550
though all the documentation was coming

945
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:26,930
in we totally rejected that the

946
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:29,240
Communists would launch any type of

947
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:34,140
offensive over the Tet holidays we knew

948
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:36,450
that they would lose too many people and

949
00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:39,690
it would be a catastrophic defeat for

950
00:51:46,550 --> 00:51:43,350
them militarily what the powers that be

951
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:46,560
that setback in a situation room looking

952
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:48,750
at a map and going over papers who

953
00:51:54,740 --> 00:51:51,240
wasn't over there beating the bush in

954
00:51:57,380 --> 00:51:54,750
the field what they ignored was the fact

955
00:51:59,960 --> 00:51:57,390
the Communists were not looking for a

956
00:52:02,930 --> 00:51:59,970
military victory that there they were

957
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:02,940
looking for a political victory they got

958
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:04,890
that political victory from that moment

959
00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:06,030
on

960
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:08,790
from that period of time everything went

961
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:12,570
down hill because the whole situation is

962
00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:17,040
the American people were very upset with

963
00:52:20,890 --> 00:52:18,390
the US government from not ending the

964
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:20,900
world more quickly now the

965
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,040
powers-that-be was listening to the

966
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,400
American people and the military in

967
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:28,800
Vietnam it was like they had been

968
00:52:38,090 --> 00:52:33,150
forgotten and being there that bothers

969
00:52:40,910 --> 00:52:38,100
me now me being involved in UFOs it

970
00:52:43,340 --> 00:52:40,920
bothers me to the point where I want to

971
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:43,350
be a part of the solution and getting

972
00:52:56,060 --> 00:52:53,540
yes eople yeah there's something going

973
00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:56,070
on here yeah I heard that

974
00:53:03,910 --> 00:52:59,330
I heard that what was that I don't know

975
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:03,920
yeah I heard that in the background okay

976
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:08,310
Wow Wow okay well when you find out what

977
00:53:13,730 --> 00:53:09,900
that they're not gonna keep me quiet

978
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:13,740
yeah that was I was I stopped listening

979
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:15,810
to you I was listening to the background

980
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:19,770
Clifford I've got to admit it okay all

981
00:53:25,450 --> 00:53:21,660
right and that was that was weird I was

982
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:25,460
trying to make out what the voice said

983
00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:28,880
was it outside of your house it was

984
00:53:42,350 --> 00:53:40,740
outside my door Wow okay okay all right

985
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,360
well we're gonna be headed towards a

986
00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:43,920
break here in about five minutes and

987
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:46,260
when we do we'll break for a commercial

988
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:48,330
for about four minutes and and you can

989
00:53:52,340 --> 00:53:50,250
go and check that out and keep

990
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:52,350
everything live don't hang up the phone

991
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:56,610
so I can listen oh yeah okay so I wanted

992
00:54:00,980 --> 00:53:58,260
to ask you this because you brought up a

993
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:00,990
very important point and then we'll

994
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:02,970
start to talk about the documents when

995
00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:06,570
we come back after the break the the

996
00:54:12,110 --> 00:54:09,420
video footage the gun camera the gimbal

997
00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:12,120
footage and what have you that that it

998
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:13,800
has been released wasn't that

999
00:54:19,059 --> 00:54:16,650
spectacular we've seen you know better

1000
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:19,069
UFO footage in the past but

1001
00:54:24,729 --> 00:54:22,130
what was interesting about that was that

1002
00:54:27,939 --> 00:54:24,739
it had allegedly come straight from the

1003
00:54:31,329 --> 00:54:27,949
Pentagon which is what you had just said

1004
00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:31,339
now that there are people inside that do

1005
00:54:37,029 --> 00:54:34,069
control this information if they were

1006
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:37,039
going to in your opinion Clifford if

1007
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:39,890
they were going to leak stuff out to a

1008
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,369
company like to the Stars Academy is

1009
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:45,680
that the best that they can do I mean

1010
00:54:50,799 --> 00:54:47,089
certainly there sitting on better

1011
00:54:52,809 --> 00:54:50,809
footage than that and it seemed a little

1012
00:54:55,150 --> 00:54:52,819
lackluster to me and then after that

1013
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,160
they took their foot off the gas they

1014
00:55:02,920 --> 00:54:57,680
just let the story go and it died on the

1015
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,930
vine we we are terrific UFO footage the

1016
00:55:07,569 --> 00:55:05,119
landing out there at Holloman right I

1017
00:55:11,319 --> 00:55:07,579
used to have what four eight hundred

1018
00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:11,329
foot of that landing until was taken

1019
00:55:16,479 --> 00:55:14,180
back from me because I'd somebody called

1020
00:55:18,579 --> 00:55:16,489
me and thought they were covering up on

1021
00:55:20,769 --> 00:55:18,589
what they were trying to talk about but

1022
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:20,779
you know our intelligence community

1023
00:55:23,650 --> 00:55:23,089
isn't down they knew in a half-hour they

1024
00:55:25,209 --> 00:55:23,660
were here

1025
00:55:27,939 --> 00:55:25,219
gathering all that data and though I

1026
00:55:30,670 --> 00:55:27,949
lost film now I keep a whole lot of

1027
00:55:34,329 --> 00:55:30,680
stuff away from the house here mm-hmm

1028
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:34,339
but the situation that film was real but

1029
00:55:39,569 --> 00:55:36,609
the reason they chose to use that film

1030
00:55:46,499 --> 00:55:39,579
it supported what the man was saying

1031
00:55:52,269 --> 00:55:46,509
about them doing the research on these

1032
00:55:55,209 --> 00:55:52,279
unconventional aircraft that and the

1033
00:56:00,489 --> 00:55:55,219
whole situation is is that was the point

1034
00:56:03,099 --> 00:56:00,499
they were trying to get across the the

1035
00:56:05,249 --> 00:56:03,109
National Solar Observatory right there

1036
00:56:08,439 --> 00:56:05,259
near you and New Mexico was closed down

1037
00:56:13,689 --> 00:56:08,449
last Thursday September 6th by the FBI

1038
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:13,699
and you're right there in that area they

1039
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:16,640
turn me around it's it's right there you

1040
00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:17,930
know you have Holloman there and white

1041
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:20,420
hands and of course Roswell and you

1042
00:56:25,299 --> 00:56:23,390
right you're all right there what do you

1043
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:25,309
think was we've got about two minutes

1044
00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:27,049
Clifford what do you think was going on

1045
00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:31,670
with that I they officially stated that

1046
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:32,600
it was I

1047
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:37,040
some type of child pornography situation

1048
00:56:44,830 --> 00:56:42,260
I think and I have to say I think that

1049
00:56:48,070 --> 00:56:44,840
it actually had something to do with a

1050
00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:48,080
biological contaminant and I don't think

1051
00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:49,720
it was mercury they were worried about

1052
00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:52,100
with that being said please keep in mind

1053
00:56:58,420 --> 00:56:55,430
there should not be any biological

1054
00:57:00,460 --> 00:56:58,430
contaminant other than mercury because

1055
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:00,470
of the telescopes that they use there

1056
00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:03,590
right but the telescope's are intact and

1057
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:07,580
they were not damaged ensured I honestly

1058
00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:11,350
believe my opinion that this child

1059
00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:14,390
pornography situation tying with it I

1060
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:17,480
think that that right there is a cover

1061
00:57:23,830 --> 00:57:21,290
story period the American people are

1062
00:57:27,490 --> 00:57:23,840
going to buy it and it's going to be the

1063
00:57:29,110 --> 00:57:27,500
end of the story I don't buy it and I'm

1064
00:57:32,410 --> 00:57:29,120
going to keep searching to try to find

1065
00:57:34,030 --> 00:57:32,420
out what really happened there the we're

1066
00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:34,040
gonna get to the bottom of that too it's

1067
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:36,950
I can already see that the National

1068
00:57:39,790 --> 00:57:39,230
Solar Observatory story is going to be a

1069
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:39,800
tough one

1070
00:57:46,810 --> 00:57:43,390
they've I they've chosen to take this

1071
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:46,820
attacked with it and we all know they're

1072
00:57:52,060 --> 00:57:49,280
covering something up you know we know

1073
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:52,070
this but we need to now do all of this

1074
00:58:00,910 --> 00:57:57,170
work and seriously frustrating work of

1075
00:58:02,290 --> 00:58:00,920
trying to get to the truth and it's not

1076
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:02,300
going to go away there's too many people

1077
00:58:08,380 --> 00:58:04,970
that are on this including yourself and

1078
00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:08,390
I was told to go ahead and consider

1079
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,270
myself on standby and hopefully I

1080
00:58:17,650 --> 00:58:13,760
remembered what I learned was on the NBC

1081
00:58:21,250 --> 00:58:17,660
team and I said I'm sick I walk with

1082
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:21,260
crutches now and I can't do it oh yes

1083
00:58:30,270 --> 00:58:25,730
you can just remember no phone number no

1084
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nothing on my caller ID very strange

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that's strange well let's take a break

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right here let's let's do this now and I

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want you to go and check out who is a

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poking around your front door I heard

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the voice I heard it right there in the

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background our guest tonight is Clifford

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stone

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we're discussing disclosure so what

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we're gonna do and all of the documents

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that we are gonna start to discuss now

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propos'd it over at Jimmy Church

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welcome back fade to black our guest

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tonight Clifford stones all the

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documents that we are going to discuss

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tonight dealing with disclosure and the

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past all the way through today by the

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way everything is connected are posted

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over at Jimmy Church radio.com and now

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Clifford who's at your front door

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well it turned out that he went around

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on my back door yeah man I hate things

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like this to happen because it makes you

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feel like you know people are gonna

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think you're crazy but the dog alerted

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I'm not letting him go out well I heard

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a voice I heard yeah yeah what did what

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did the voice say What did he say it was

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a man who's male you know hard to try to

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make out what he was saying and when I

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opened the back door I don't even want

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to say okay alright they don't like the

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idea of me talking about what almost

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happened okay let's let's get into that

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then let's find out what what is it that

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lets go now we've got a load of

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documents here do you want me to open

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these up in order that you sent them to

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me it's probably best to do it that way

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because it actually lays down a pattern

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of the vent that was set in place

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because people in high places the

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president was the comparative lying

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about what was really going on one new

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truth and there was an agency the major

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agency that had they actually released

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that intelligence directive then all the

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until everyone in the intelligence

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community would be involved in gathering

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data on UFOs

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by mid 1953 we wouldn't be having this

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conversation because the world would

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know that we are known in the universe

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and that we have visitors from out there

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hmm let's go to this first document and

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for everybody just go to document number

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one I need to go let me go over to a gym

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you Church radio calm let me see how

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we've got these hold on for a second

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cliff here let me pause this okay oh I

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just open it hold on for a second okay

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the the documents are listed here I

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don't see them let me see here okay so

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we jump back a page okay here they are

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documented - okay the first one is dated

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July 26th 27th the object was on July

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20th and I think that is that right

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01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:51,269
there is the blue book file 107 pages

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dealing with the overflights the night

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01:07:00,709 --> 01:06:56,900
of July 26th 27th over Washington DC

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yeah and yes okay so the documents are

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here in order this is the top one it

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says document - yeah right now I have

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over a hundred documents dealing with it

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yeah that that's fine no I'm just

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01:07:16,999 --> 01:07:13,259
letting our audience know so document to

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the top document and of all the people

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01:07:23,739 --> 01:07:18,859
that this one we're starting off with

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01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:23,749
infamous all right captain root belt and

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01:07:30,229 --> 01:07:27,119
what okay so let's go through this it

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01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:30,239
the subject is discussion of Washington

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DC radar sightings of unidentified

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object on 20th and twenty six and twenty

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01:07:43,069 --> 01:07:39,690
seventh of July 1952 all right take it

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away Clifford okay in this document it's

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01:07:48,769 --> 01:07:45,269
showing where these objects went over

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Washington DC and it's when you go

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through the whole hundred and seven

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01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:51,690
pages who realize that it's not just

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radar sightings but people military

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01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:57,839
people actually saw the UFOs fighters

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were sent up to intercept the UFOs and

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one instance a fighter aircraft was

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surrounded by the UFOs and they kept

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close

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and finally they started to go away the

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pilot when I had locked on the one who's

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01:08:15,059 --> 01:08:11,150
confronting him tried to chase after it

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01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:15,069
but it totally like he was setting still

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01:08:19,419 --> 01:08:18,350
repelled when he was told that the

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president wanted to know what was going

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:22,190
on he went ahead and told the caller

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that the sightings were nothing more in

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01:08:30,610 --> 01:08:27,469
temperature inversions or weather

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01:08:30,970 --> 01:08:30,620
anomaly that there was really nothing to

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01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:30,980
him

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:33,910
now he didn't know that wasn't the case

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01:08:38,769 --> 01:08:36,290
but you know that's what he had been

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01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:38,779
told by the people there at Blue Book

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01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:41,270
which he was over but there was a

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lieutenant on the Navy lieutenant Newton

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01:08:50,740 --> 01:08:48,140
who was there at the tower and I'll chop

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01:08:52,539 --> 01:08:50,750
who was there at the tower and several

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01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:52,549
experts on radar that was there at the

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01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,890
tower making it clear that there is no

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01:08:59,950 --> 01:08:56,960
malfunction of the radar that they were

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01:09:04,269 --> 01:08:59,960
not temperature inversions and that the

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01:09:07,780 --> 01:09:04,279
objects were good solid returns and the

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:07,790
whole situation is is that this is not

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01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:10,210
what the Air Force the powers-that-be

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01:09:13,660 --> 01:09:13,190
wanted to know now but other people

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:13,670
don't know

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01:09:22,269 --> 01:09:19,250
on that same day July 26 the Air Defense

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01:09:25,749 --> 01:09:22,279
Command issued an order to shoot down

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01:09:28,539 --> 01:09:25,759
any UFO that refused land when directed

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01:09:31,329 --> 01:09:28,549
to do so the only reason we know about

1304
01:09:33,220 --> 01:09:31,339
that is because they went ahead and

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01:09:36,099 --> 01:09:33,230
released a news release which they

1306
01:09:40,059 --> 01:09:36,109
immediately withdraw it was drew it was

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01:09:43,630 --> 01:09:40,069
put out about 12:30 that day by 5:30 the

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01:09:45,550 --> 01:09:43,640
in the afternoon it was drawn but the

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01:09:48,490 --> 01:09:45,560
whole situation is I think that our

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01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:48,500
visitors since they over prove

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01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:51,049
Washington and the White House on the

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01:09:57,220 --> 01:09:53,810
night a week earlier is a day on the

1313
01:09:59,410 --> 01:09:57,230
night of July 19th to the 20th we didn't

1314
01:10:04,750 --> 01:09:59,420
get the message so on the night of July

1315
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:04,760
26 27 they showed up and forth now this

1316
01:10:11,979 --> 01:10:08,810
was a wake-up call for the president

1317
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:11,989
members of Congress members were in the

1318
01:10:18,130 --> 01:10:15,650
Department of Defense that there was

1319
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:18,140
something going on these objects were

1320
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:19,250
real

1321
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:21,310
they were under intelligent control

1322
01:10:26,230 --> 01:10:24,230
therefore they needed more than just

1323
01:10:28,570 --> 01:10:26,240
some people going around ham Hawking

1324
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:28,580
saying other temperature inversions all

1325
01:10:32,980 --> 01:10:30,250
the weather anomaly there

1326
01:10:36,250 --> 01:10:32,990
misidentifications of known aircraft or

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:36,260
known phenomena and in this case this

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01:10:43,710 --> 01:10:39,290
probably was not yet also it showed how

1329
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:43,720
Bron herbal that a major city and

1330
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:47,510
particularly a city that was in control

1331
01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:52,130
of this country was to aircraft of some

1332
01:10:57,340 --> 01:10:54,350
sort flying and we were powerless to

1333
01:10:59,230 --> 01:10:57,350
stop them even to the point where it was

1334
01:11:02,980 --> 01:10:59,240
a violation of the restricted air

1335
01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:02,990
quarters ADIZ to fly over the White

1336
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:06,440
House they had several UFOs fly over the

1337
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:09,890
White House stop and there was nothing

1338
01:11:13,180 --> 01:11:10,850
we could do about it

1339
01:11:14,170 --> 01:11:13,190
so yeah the president the United States

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:14,180
is very concerned

1341
01:11:21,010 --> 01:11:18,650
there's our yeah there's two points well

1342
01:11:25,570 --> 01:11:21,020
the this this first document is an

1343
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:25,580
amazing read and they're on page five of

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01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:28,490
the document it says right there that

1345
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:32,000
repelled got a phone call from the

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01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:33,710
newspaper there's probably The

1347
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:37,000
Washington Post I would assume right but

1348
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:40,640
Washington Post and he was he was told

1349
01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:44,480
that he and this is this is a report

1350
01:11:51,010 --> 01:11:47,180
after the fact but that he was told he

1351
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:51,020
was not to speak to the press and but

1352
01:11:55,900 --> 01:11:53,210
and and that was on that's that's on

1353
01:11:58,150 --> 01:11:55,910
page five and what what transpired from

1354
01:12:03,310 --> 01:11:58,160
there everybody can go and read but if

1355
01:12:07,630 --> 01:12:03,320
you go forward to page 73 these are my

1356
01:12:10,510 --> 01:12:07,640
notes this is on page 73 and I'm gonna

1357
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:10,520
read directly from the document visual

1358
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:13,010
sightings were reported by both ground

1359
01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:16,610
and airborne witnesses the description

1360
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:19,700
the descriptions by the witnesses were

1361
01:12:24,670 --> 01:12:22,550
generally the same the objects were

1362
01:12:27,970 --> 01:12:24,680
described as changing from orange to

1363
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:27,980
green and back to read the numbers

1364
01:12:32,890 --> 01:12:32,000
varied from one to six with no apparent

1365
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:32,900
set

1366
01:12:39,490 --> 01:12:35,870
formation three objects were reported to

1367
01:12:41,919 --> 01:12:39,500
have left trails the motions of the

1368
01:12:45,729 --> 01:12:41,929
objects for the most part appeared

1369
01:12:50,939 --> 01:12:45,739
erratic in some instances the objects

1370
01:12:53,470 --> 01:12:50,949
were described as meteors a very

1371
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:53,480
interesting thing to have in this

1372
01:13:01,660 --> 01:12:57,920
document for a variety of reasons but

1373
01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:01,670
for me I have seen this exact thing with

1374
01:13:18,850 --> 01:13:14,439
and that's on page that's on page 73 and

1375
01:13:21,610 --> 01:13:18,860
now oh go to page 80 is it growing there

1376
01:13:23,709 --> 01:13:21,620
no one can explain what that drawing why

1377
01:13:26,530 --> 01:13:23,719
that going there and what foods to be oh

1378
01:13:28,180 --> 01:13:26,540
I saw this yes yes yes okay well there's

1379
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:28,190
a couple of things in here that

1380
01:13:36,090 --> 01:13:31,730
definitely seem out of place so yes

1381
01:13:38,890 --> 01:13:36,100
everybody go to page 80 and here we have

1382
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:38,900
okay I'll let you describe what we're

1383
01:13:46,050 --> 01:13:42,170
looking at here I rather apparent to me

1384
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,060
until I take a second look okay so what

1385
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:48,560
what do we see what you're looking at

1386
01:13:52,270 --> 01:13:50,750
looks like a drawing of a little devil

1387
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:52,280
and probably back in the day they'd call

1388
01:13:58,540 --> 01:13:55,730
that a gremlin right but the this

1389
01:13:59,979 --> 01:13:58,550
gremlin you know has the three fingers

1390
01:14:03,820 --> 01:13:59,989
if you look closely and you can look at

1391
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:03,830
the toes three toes it's got of course

1392
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:07,850
the tail got grill sharp keys but what I

1393
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:10,850
find interesting is the fact that it

1394
01:14:15,130 --> 01:14:13,040
appears to have some type of suit on I'm

1395
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:15,140
insane over the right hand side I think

1396
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:18,760
it is yes it appears to have like an

1397
01:14:23,740 --> 01:14:21,530
what would what would we would call some

1398
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:23,750
type of emblem but it's like oval shape

1399
01:14:28,510 --> 01:14:25,850
but that's about as far as it goes have

1400
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:28,520
no writing and I think I think that a

1401
01:14:34,330 --> 01:14:30,770
person put that in there for one reason

1402
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:34,340
so the people would understand that

1403
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:37,520
there were people who are working in the

1404
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:42,080
UFO field that by everything they saw

1405
01:14:53,570 --> 01:14:51,140
someone else was behind the intelligence

1406
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:53,580
and the technology on UFOs and it did

1407
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:56,880
not originate on this planet and I think

1408
01:15:00,129 --> 01:14:58,530
out of frustration that's why the person

1409
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:00,139
did what they did putting that in there

1410
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:02,489
there was a lot of questions asked about

1411
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:05,610
that drawing by the way I'm looking at

1412
01:15:14,689 --> 01:15:09,210
it here I don't know what to make of it

1413
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:14,699
okay I don't I it but that looks to me

1414
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,920
to be a flying saucer emblem it was in

1415
01:15:24,410 --> 01:15:22,080
and it's done with intention that's the

1416
01:15:27,169 --> 01:15:24,420
only thing that's the only thing that I

1417
01:15:31,700 --> 01:15:27,179
can think of and as I look at this it's

1418
01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:31,710
a very very impressive drawing now it

1419
01:15:37,070 --> 01:15:34,260
looks like a devil right he's got a tail

1420
01:15:39,140 --> 01:15:37,080
I don't know if those are arms or wings

1421
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:39,150
it's kind of strange you're right about

1422
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:41,940
the three finger or the three toes but

1423
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:44,370
he's got a suit on and he looks like

1424
01:15:51,649 --> 01:15:49,409
he's flying and he's got an emblem and

1425
01:15:55,820 --> 01:15:51,659
that emblem looks like a flying saucer

1426
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:55,830
and this is in a government report about

1427
01:16:02,120 --> 01:15:57,590
the UFOs that were sighted over

1428
01:16:05,470 --> 01:16:02,130
Washington DC I have no idea that that's

1429
01:16:09,610 --> 01:16:05,480
that when I saw this earlier today I

1430
01:16:12,140 --> 01:16:09,620
stopped now there was also Clifford here

1431
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:12,150
earlier I don't know what page it was on

1432
01:16:17,810 --> 01:16:14,730
there's some newspaper clippings and one

1433
01:16:21,740 --> 01:16:17,820
is of a party and I didn't make any

1434
01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:21,750
notes of it what why it's it's on page

1435
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:25,230
63 invites you to drive out today or

1436
01:16:33,860 --> 01:16:28,409
this evening and visit with the lake our

1437
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:33,870
craft estates home sites for okay it's

1438
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:36,690
it's a it's a real estate listing but

1439
01:16:42,919 --> 01:16:41,489
why is this in here I'm not sure why

1440
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:42,929
they put that in there but a lot of

1441
01:16:47,290 --> 01:16:44,130
times when they go ahead and do these

1442
01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:47,300
newspaper clippings they would take out

1443
01:16:52,510 --> 01:16:50,310
the story about the incident in which

1444
01:16:54,530 --> 01:16:52,520
the file was supposed to be about and

1445
01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:54,540
sometimes they'd go ahead and take out

1446
01:16:59,150 --> 01:16:58,199
some of the advertisement also not that

1447
01:17:01,760 --> 01:16:59,160
they were never there

1448
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,770
they were supposed to be there but that

1449
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:03,360
would happen from time to time and

1450
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:05,970
before we get out of this document and

1451
01:17:09,860 --> 01:17:07,320
move on to another one

1452
01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:09,870
what other pages should we look at here

1453
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:15,390
oh I don't know I that the whole thing

1454
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:21,360
is interesting but the first 25 pages at

1455
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:23,610
least you see where they have radar

1456
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:29,490
experts they're in the tower group serve

1457
01:17:33,470 --> 01:17:32,100
what they wrong and of course they're

1458
01:17:36,650 --> 01:17:33,480
making it clear they're keeping an open

1459
01:17:39,230 --> 01:17:36,660
mind but something was flying in

1460
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Washington the the air above Washington

1461
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:43,050
on that night in question and these

1462
01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:45,780
people would know when you get to the

1463
01:17:51,980 --> 01:17:47,940
next set you have people trying to

1464
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:51,990
downplay it okay I am going to let me

1465
01:17:58,010 --> 01:17:54,410
get this posted up here really quick and

1466
01:17:59,690 --> 01:17:58,020
this is page 80 I've got to put this up

1467
01:18:03,880 --> 01:17:59,700
in Twitter for everybody just so that

1468
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:03,890
they can check this out I don't know

1469
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:06,930
it's the emblem man it's the emblem that

1470
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:10,110
just throws me for a loop here I don't I

1471
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:12,120
don't know what this uh I don't know

1472
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:14,730
what that is all about let's um I think

1473
01:18:18,050 --> 01:18:16,410
major Cornett is the one that actually

1474
01:18:20,750 --> 01:18:18,060
did that drawing and post it there

1475
01:18:24,620 --> 01:18:20,760
because he was very angry and upset that

1476
01:18:28,180 --> 01:18:24,630
people did not want to go ahead and let

1477
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:28,190
him speak and also at the time even

1478
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:31,890
professor high-neck but they did not

1479
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:34,110
want those two people to speak at that

1480
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:35,850
time because both of them was coming

1481
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:38,370
around but they felt that there was more

1482
01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:41,490
to UFOs high-neck made the statement

1483
01:18:46,460 --> 01:18:44,100
based on this particular incident and

1484
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:46,470
the other thing he saw because initially

1485
01:18:51,730 --> 01:18:49,110
when he got involved in the scientific

1486
01:18:55,250 --> 01:18:51,740
consultant to the Air Force he stated

1487
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,260
these UFOs are these flying objects it

1488
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,840
only goes away of the sea serpent after

1489
01:19:01,370 --> 01:18:59,520
the in the summer are going to be gone

1490
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:01,380
well that didn't happen then he came out

1491
01:19:08,590 --> 01:19:04,380
and stated there's got to be something

1492
01:19:11,570 --> 01:19:08,600
to this because we have input we have

1493
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:11,580
incredible events being reported by very

1494
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:12,540
credible

1495
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:16,410
and even general Sam Sanford would use

1496
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:19,110
that in his press conference but it was

1497
01:19:24,050 --> 01:19:20,610
high-neck that initially made the

1498
01:19:26,510 --> 01:19:24,060
statement keeping that in mind that they

1499
01:19:29,060 --> 01:19:26,520
knew that high-neck would not go ahead

1500
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:29,070
and say look there's nothing to these

1501
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:30,710
they're not deserving of being

1502
01:19:37,310 --> 01:19:34,320
investigated he was invited to be an

1503
01:19:40,450 --> 01:19:37,320
observer on the Robinson panel but not

1504
01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:40,460
to participate major Fernet he goes in

1505
01:19:47,690 --> 01:19:44,790
details the Robinson panel look these

1506
01:19:49,670 --> 01:19:47,700
are the cases we have gone over we have

1507
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:49,680
done investigation after investigation

1508
01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:52,770
and we only have one conclusion after

1509
01:20:00,020 --> 01:19:55,470
eliminating all the others one by one

1510
01:20:03,980 --> 01:20:00,030
very meticulously and that is some UFOs

1511
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:03,990
are interplanetary spacecraft visiting

1512
01:20:12,670 --> 01:20:07,110
our planet and of course they reject the

1513
01:20:16,460 --> 01:20:12,680
death the the report clearance the best

1514
01:20:18,590 --> 01:20:16,470
parts about this is is the radar data

1515
01:20:20,690 --> 01:20:18,600
and the conversations that were going on

1516
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:20,700
in between the departments about that

1517
01:20:25,870 --> 01:20:24,730
data and how specific it was and then

1518
01:20:28,370 --> 01:20:25,880
[Music]

1519
01:20:31,370 --> 01:20:28,380
it's mentioned in a few places in the

1520
01:20:33,290 --> 01:20:31,380
report so I'm taking it off of a page 76

1521
01:20:37,460 --> 01:20:33,300
right here it's also in the opening that

1522
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:37,470
it was sporadic these sightings the

1523
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:39,570
radar data was intermittent it was

1524
01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:41,940
capable of dropping out of the pattern

1525
01:20:46,910 --> 01:20:43,710
at will

1526
01:20:49,220 --> 01:20:46,920
a creeping appearance that it just

1527
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,230
disappeared from the scope that it was a

1528
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:51,600
solid objects and that these were

1529
01:20:58,850 --> 01:20:55,520
unidentified targets being picked up in

1530
01:21:01,820 --> 01:20:58,860
the past four months and I'm quoting

1531
01:21:04,690 --> 01:21:01,830
here it says four months but never

1532
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,700
before were there so many as we're

1533
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:06,960
experienced on the nights of the 19th

1534
01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:09,330
and the 20th and the 26th and then 27th

1535
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:11,940
July 1952

1536
01:21:18,230 --> 01:21:15,510
this is clear in the report and you

1537
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:18,240
don't have to interpret what they are

1538
01:21:22,030 --> 01:21:20,850
writing here the report is very clear

1539
01:21:25,190 --> 01:21:22,040
into the point

1540
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:25,200
absolutely let's uh let's go to the next

1541
01:21:28,830 --> 01:21:26,260
document

1542
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:28,840
before we hit the break which is in

1543
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:29,650
order

1544
01:21:39,180 --> 01:21:35,290
this one is titled Department of Defense

1545
01:21:41,790 --> 01:21:39,190
minutes of press conference held by John

1546
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:41,800
Major General Johnny Sanford and now the

1547
01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:45,730
thing is about this we have all

1548
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:48,160
including myself I have seen this press

1549
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:50,410
conference many times I watched pieces

1550
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:52,930
of it the other day once again after

1551
01:22:00,450 --> 01:21:56,500
speaking with you also featured in the

1552
01:22:01,890 --> 01:22:00,460
the documentary UFO which came out when

1553
01:22:04,050 --> 01:22:01,900
did that come out nineteen fifteen that

1554
01:22:06,900 --> 01:22:04,060
came out 30 second to this day I believe

1555
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:06,910
that is the best UFO documentary

1556
01:22:13,050 --> 01:22:09,850
yep-yep this the scene with them the

1557
01:22:14,670 --> 01:22:13,060
reenactment of the radar event when they

1558
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:14,680
were looking at the radar patterns on

1559
01:22:23,220 --> 01:22:20,530
the scope and was word-for-word what

1560
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:23,230
went down in the radar room that night

1561
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:27,030
yes okay let's go through this document

1562
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:30,330
I'm hoping everybody has got it open

1563
01:22:36,650 --> 01:22:33,370
here we go now this is minutes this is

1564
01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:36,660
the report from the press conference

1565
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:40,900
which was held July 29th 1952 at 4:00

1566
01:22:50,169 --> 01:22:47,360
p.m. room 3 e 869 in the Pentagon

1567
01:22:53,649 --> 01:22:50,179
that is correct and the whole situation

1568
01:22:56,890 --> 01:22:53,659
is that the media stings because this

1569
01:23:00,160 --> 01:22:56,900
was creating national news national

1570
01:23:02,530 --> 01:23:00,170
concern there was panic because of what

1571
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:02,540
happened there there was a fear because

1572
01:23:06,939 --> 01:23:04,250
of what happened there so the Air Force

1573
01:23:10,180 --> 01:23:06,949
had to do something so they held this

1574
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:10,190
press confidence during everyone that

1575
01:23:14,169 --> 01:23:12,320
this was nothing more than temperature

1576
01:23:17,530 --> 01:23:14,179
inversions malfunction of the radar

1577
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:17,540
equipment and all of that good stuff but

1578
01:23:25,180 --> 01:23:21,050
the situation is the Blue Book file

1579
01:23:27,490 --> 01:23:25,190
shows that was not the case but general

1580
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:27,500
Sanford had to do that later on we're

1581
01:23:32,290 --> 01:23:30,800
going to find out well while he was

1582
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:32,300
briefing at the same time he was

1583
01:23:38,620 --> 01:23:36,320
briefing the media about this and a

1584
01:23:42,430 --> 01:23:38,630
another room in the Pentagon about four

1585
01:23:44,979 --> 01:23:42,440
doors down the director of Central

1586
01:23:47,410 --> 01:23:44,989
Intelligence was holding a briefing of

1587
01:23:50,379 --> 01:23:47,420
his own talking to among other people

1588
01:23:54,459 --> 01:23:50,389
major fournaye in which they were making

1589
01:23:59,169 --> 01:23:54,469
it clear that they had they had no

1590
01:24:02,919 --> 01:23:59,179
conclusions as to what really caused the

1591
01:24:06,189 --> 01:24:02,929
sightings that night of course major

1592
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:06,199
horn a once again had already concluded

1593
01:24:12,430 --> 01:24:10,159
some UFOs were interplanetary what I

1594
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:12,440
love about this document because we have

1595
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:16,010
only seen clips from the press

1596
01:24:21,550 --> 01:24:19,610
conference here you've got all of the

1597
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:21,560
questions that were laid out by the

1598
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:26,239
press and Sanford's responses to them it

1599
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:29,090
is much more detailed than the short

1600
01:24:34,930 --> 01:24:31,360
little clips that we have got out there

1601
01:24:36,729 --> 01:24:34,940
in YouTube land and and what we have

1602
01:24:39,729 --> 01:24:36,739
seen in like I said in the in the

1603
01:24:42,340 --> 01:24:39,739
documentary UFO this is some of the best

1604
01:24:45,970 --> 01:24:42,350
reading and I have no idea how many

1605
01:24:49,570 --> 01:24:45,980
pages is this guy this is it forty page

1606
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:49,580
forty four pages long and it is

1607
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:52,130
word-for-word of the back and forth

1608
01:25:00,640 --> 01:24:57,650
between not only now we need to make

1609
01:25:06,189 --> 01:25:00,650
note here general Roger Ramey is there

1610
01:25:08,919 --> 01:25:06,199
yep Donald Brewer is their captain Roy

1611
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:08,929
James of the electronics branch the air

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01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:12,080
tactical intelligence Center right of

1613
01:25:18,370 --> 01:25:15,409
course you've got a Dru belt and it's

1614
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:18,380
it's an amazing document and to go and

1615
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:20,570
read this back and forth with the press

1616
01:25:27,729 --> 01:25:23,570
the the country and the press were very

1617
01:25:30,939 --> 01:25:27,739
very very concerned and the dance that

1618
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:30,949
these guys do compared to what was

1619
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:33,050
written in the report and how concerned

1620
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:35,210
they were in the report versus how they

1621
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:37,489
dealt with the the public about this

1622
01:25:42,399 --> 01:25:39,770
it's two different situations 180

1623
01:25:44,350 --> 01:25:42,409
degrees apart oh absolutely I don't want

1624
01:25:48,459 --> 01:25:44,360
to get ahead of myself in the document

1625
01:25:51,490 --> 01:25:48,469
to make it a long story short these

1626
01:25:53,229 --> 01:25:51,500
people were creating a cover story

1627
01:25:54,669 --> 01:25:53,239
therefore I don't want to say they were

1628
01:25:59,410 --> 01:25:54,679
lying but they knew what they were

1629
01:26:02,950 --> 01:25:59,420
stating was not the truth and were not

1630
01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:02,960
the facts they were known but they

1631
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:06,350
required to go ahead and create this

1632
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:10,400
cover story to try to go ahead and stem

1633
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:14,330
the the fear and on near panic the

1634
01:26:23,649 --> 01:26:17,810
public had about this one night in July

1635
01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:23,659
of 1932 but that one night created a

1636
01:26:30,610 --> 01:26:26,840
firestorm in the intelligence community

1637
01:26:33,250 --> 01:26:30,620
in Washington DC in which the CIA who

1638
01:26:37,419 --> 01:26:33,260
actually controls the UFO programs

1639
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:37,429
period and the Office of Scientific

1640
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:40,250
intelligence which is the office that to

1641
01:26:47,860 --> 01:26:43,300
this day within the CIA controls all the

1642
01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:47,870
information on UFOs period how close

1643
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:51,800
were we between the departments and and

1644
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:54,530
the president back in 1952 to a

1645
01:27:01,120 --> 01:26:58,159
full-blown disclosure who was supporting

1646
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:01,130
it Oh everyone in the intelligence

1647
01:27:07,390 --> 01:27:04,370
community and the FBI as you'll see in

1648
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:07,400
some of the other documents was even

1649
01:27:14,770 --> 01:27:12,010
concerned about the CIA covering not

1650
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:14,780
most of the information on you

1651
01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:18,270
they had a person who was appointed to

1652
01:27:23,870 --> 01:27:20,310
what we call the intelligence advisory

1653
01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:23,880
committee and everyone in the

1654
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:25,620
intelligence advisory committee says

1655
01:27:30,170 --> 01:27:28,770
look there's something going on and you

1656
01:27:32,450 --> 01:27:30,180
know even Department of Defense is

1657
01:27:35,870 --> 01:27:32,460
coming in says look we need to be able

1658
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:35,880
to expedite our methods so we can

1659
01:27:42,650 --> 01:27:38,850
quickly and rapidly identify these

1660
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:42,660
unknowns to determine whether we have a

1661
01:27:47,090 --> 01:27:45,090
problem or we don't have a problem but

1662
01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:47,100
you know it's the process right now

1663
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:50,340
since lo we need to go ahead and be able

1664
01:27:59,900 --> 01:27:55,970
to rapidly respond to UFO reports and

1665
01:28:03,080 --> 01:27:59,910
get truthful and honest conclusions as

1666
01:28:04,670 --> 01:28:03,090
to what they are and what's causing the

1667
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:04,680
the director of Central Intelligence

1668
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,330
Agency did not want this to happen he

1669
01:28:17,390 --> 01:28:11,760
did not want the table come out we were

1670
01:28:22,190 --> 01:28:17,400
so close that it was dead reckoning that

1671
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:22,200
he had to convince the IAC the

1672
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:26,810
intelligence advisory committee to

1673
01:28:31,550 --> 01:28:29,520
forget about getting the National

1674
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:31,560
Security Council involved where they

1675
01:28:38,270 --> 01:28:35,370
would go ahead and issue a National

1676
01:28:41,810 --> 01:28:38,280
Security Council intelligence directive

1677
01:28:44,060 --> 01:28:41,820
had that happened the entire

1678
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:44,070
intelligence community would be working

1679
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:46,530
on answers and solutions to the UFO

1680
01:28:51,980 --> 01:28:48,960
problem which the answers and solutions

1681
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:51,990
was already there but they would now be

1682
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:54,810
formulated but not just a little office

1683
01:29:01,970 --> 01:28:58,290
there at wright-patterson given lip

1684
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:01,980
service to UFO reports but the actual

1685
01:29:07,570 --> 01:29:04,800
hard data that was being collected and

1686
01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:07,580
analyzed would now be part of a

1687
01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:12,450
finalized intelligence product that I'm

1688
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:14,040
sorry would have been leaked to the

1689
01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:17,490
media and the truth would be out let's

1690
01:29:21,020 --> 01:29:19,260
take a break right here Clifford we got

1691
01:29:21,500 --> 01:29:21,030
to do it we'll take a quick commercial

1692
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:21,510
break

1693
01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:23,730
this is fade to black when we come back

1694
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:26,340
we're going in order down the document

1695
01:29:29,290 --> 01:29:27,440
list off of

1696
01:29:31,660 --> 01:29:29,300
Jimmy Church radio.com we're gonna check

1697
01:29:34,540 --> 01:29:31,670
out document number three a preliminary

1698
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:34,550
study of unidentified targets observed

1699
01:29:40,420 --> 01:29:38,690
on air traffic control radars it's an

1700
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:40,430
amazing read our guests and I Clifford

1701
01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:42,890
stone on disclosure this is fade to

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01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:44,620
black stay with us

1703
01:29:57,970 --> 01:29:53,970
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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01:30:00,280 --> 01:29:57,980
you're listening to fade to black always

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this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Network

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01:33:26,630 --> 01:33:23,790
hi I'm Lisa Vance you're listening to

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01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:26,640
Jaime Church this is a revolution the

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revolution will not be televised the

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01:34:15,449 --> 01:34:12,060
[Music]

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01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:19,089
welcome back coach coast-to-coast look

1782
01:34:25,919 --> 01:34:21,050
at back face to black

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01:34:28,299 --> 01:34:25,929
ah yes I did I was hell

1784
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:28,309
fade to black coming hosting me Church I

1785
01:34:32,889 --> 01:34:30,800
guess tonight Clifford stone and we are

1786
01:34:36,639 --> 01:34:32,899
discussing disclosure and what was going

1787
01:34:38,620 --> 01:34:36,649
down with the huge UFO sighting that

1788
01:34:42,669 --> 01:34:38,630
happened over in Washington DC back in

1789
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:42,679
July of 1952 and Clifford we are at a

1790
01:34:48,819 --> 01:34:45,679
document number three a preliminary

1791
01:34:52,330 --> 01:34:48,829
study of unidentified targets observed

1792
01:34:56,199 --> 01:34:52,340
on air traffic control radars by Richard

1793
01:34:59,379 --> 01:34:56,209
C Borden electronics division and Terry

1794
01:35:01,449 --> 01:34:59,389
K Vickers navigation aids evaluation

1795
01:35:04,060 --> 01:35:01,459
division technical department report

1796
01:35:07,149 --> 01:35:04,070
number one eighty what do we get in this

1797
01:35:12,899 --> 01:35:07,159
document okay this is where they did an

1798
01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:12,909
analysis of the UFOs for the months of

1799
01:35:23,379 --> 01:35:17,510
July and even going into August you'll

1800
01:35:26,620 --> 01:35:23,389
note 1960 there were 68 UFOs I think was

1801
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:26,630
on the night of August 13 that one over

1802
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:29,090
Washington DC and of course they were

1803
01:35:32,739 --> 01:35:30,530
hitting up on all these being tampered

1804
01:35:34,989 --> 01:35:32,749
versions they had one object that was

1805
01:35:37,330 --> 01:35:34,999
doing maybe a hundred and ten miles and

1806
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:37,340
they decided that possibly was an

1807
01:35:44,350 --> 01:35:40,369
aircraft but once again this report goes

1808
01:35:45,909 --> 01:35:44,360
against what the experts not just you

1809
01:35:48,609 --> 01:35:45,919
know some kid that joined the Air Force

1810
01:35:51,389 --> 01:35:48,619
and became a radar technician but

1811
01:35:54,310 --> 01:35:51,399
experts in the UFO are in the

1812
01:35:59,500 --> 01:35:54,320
electronics world that were experts on

1813
01:36:02,319 --> 01:35:59,510
radar have it to say in the first

1814
01:36:04,089 --> 01:36:02,329
document dealing with the Project Blue

1815
01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:04,099
Book file the UFO sightings on that

1816
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:07,070
particular night but they're trying to

1817
01:36:11,889 --> 01:36:09,289
downplay it once again they had to

1818
01:36:13,419 --> 01:36:11,899
downplay it I don't know for sure but

1819
01:36:17,979 --> 01:36:13,429
I'm of the opinion that these people

1820
01:36:22,540 --> 01:36:17,989
also were directed to be less than

1821
01:36:24,339 --> 01:36:22,550
truthful and what they were telling the

1822
01:36:27,940 --> 01:36:24,349
public because this was not a classified

1823
01:36:31,330 --> 01:36:27,950
report it would be available

1824
01:36:34,750 --> 01:36:31,340
to the media so once again they won what

1825
01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:34,760
the press conference said they wanted

1826
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,470
this to go ahead and support what

1827
01:36:46,330 --> 01:36:42,080
general Sanford said at the press

1828
01:36:48,850 --> 01:36:46,340
conference so they did a good job on

1829
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:48,860
that so now you got two documents out

1830
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:51,580
there trying to squelch what's going on

1831
01:37:02,020 --> 01:36:57,440
yet behind the scenes no one no one knew

1832
01:37:05,170 --> 01:37:02,030
what was going down with the debate and

1833
01:37:07,210 --> 01:37:05,180
discussions within the intelligence

1834
01:37:10,540 --> 01:37:07,220
Advisory Committee

1835
01:37:13,330 --> 01:37:10,550
yeah what's great here is a page nine

1836
01:37:17,230 --> 01:37:13,340
page nine in this document and it goes

1837
01:37:20,650 --> 01:37:17,240
right back to the scene of the

1838
01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:20,660
documentary UFO which came out 1956 this

1839
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:25,910
is exactly what I remember seeing in the

1840
01:37:32,970 --> 01:37:29,690
recreation of and also page 12 too as

1841
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:32,980
well of that famous scene from the movie

1842
01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:37,030
1956 but what is interesting here

1843
01:37:44,620 --> 01:37:41,270
Clifford is that temperature inversions

1844
01:37:49,210 --> 01:37:44,630
aren't cited on the ground and in

1845
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:49,220
airplanes and causing phone calls to go

1846
01:37:53,230 --> 01:37:51,890
into the Pentagon asking about the

1847
01:38:00,040 --> 01:37:53,240
sightings that are happening right now

1848
01:38:01,750 --> 01:38:00,050
over Washington DC and I mean no one

1849
01:38:04,630 --> 01:38:01,760
heard of ball lightning until the word

1850
01:38:09,130 --> 01:38:04,640
was invented right I tried to cover up

1851
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:09,140
UFOs and even to this day we and as a

1852
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:10,850
result of events that happened on board

1853
01:38:18,940 --> 01:38:14,090
a submarine in 1967 where they were

1854
01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:18,950
hitting up on a battery there and one of

1855
01:38:26,710 --> 01:38:24,070
the big I don't know what they call on

1856
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:26,720
oceanographic batteries on a submarine

1857
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:30,320
they were connected at arc so they took

1858
01:38:36,130 --> 01:38:34,610
pictures of when an arc these balls of

1859
01:38:40,060 --> 01:38:36,140
light dancing around which were

1860
01:38:42,180 --> 01:38:40,070
electrical sparks essentially being

1861
01:38:44,130 --> 01:38:42,190
thrown off the battery but

1862
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:44,140
we're spiracle shape and of course they

1863
01:38:51,290 --> 01:38:47,110
came up and here's proof that the

1864
01:38:56,220 --> 01:38:51,300
Lightning exists at one point we were

1865
01:39:00,479 --> 01:38:56,230
researching the possibility of using

1866
01:39:03,660 --> 01:39:00,489
burl lightning and the weapon and I bet

1867
01:39:05,220 --> 01:39:03,670
you very few people know about that but

1868
01:39:07,370 --> 01:39:05,230
I have the documentation back me up on

1869
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:07,380
one thing there now we're gonna go to

1870
01:39:19,950 --> 01:39:16,570
the next one which is the o RR diary and

1871
01:39:22,050 --> 01:39:19,960
it's a little out of order I believe and

1872
01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:22,060
it's the low yellow like I say there was

1873
01:39:27,810 --> 01:39:25,360
over there's over a hundred documents I

1874
01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:27,820
have dealing with just this this is I'll

1875
01:39:33,650 --> 01:39:29,830
tell you right now I'm being inspired to

1876
01:39:36,030 --> 01:39:33,660
try to write a new book based on this

1877
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:36,040
based on the fact that this close were

1878
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:39,000
almost happened and this this is a CIA

1879
01:39:50,750 --> 01:39:44,050
document the Oh diary and this is dated

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01:39:55,950 --> 01:39:50,760
July 31st 1952 labeled secret but

1881
01:40:01,770 --> 01:39:55,960
approved for release back in 2000 and

1882
01:40:04,410 --> 01:40:01,780
take that what what is the ORR I'm not

1883
01:40:10,290 --> 01:40:04,420
sure what the o.r really stands for I'm

1884
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:10,300
sorry about that but it's the office of

1885
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:12,610
some type of research with ties in with

1886
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:16,800
the office of scientific intelligence

1887
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:20,650
now this document is important because

1888
01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:23,050
it's talking about various things that

1889
01:40:31,229 --> 01:40:27,910
happen actually for that whole week but

1890
01:40:33,630 --> 01:40:31,239
if you go to page two about halfway down

1891
01:40:37,260 --> 01:40:33,640
the document you will come to a part

1892
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:37,270
there that took takes place at the same

1893
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:41,170
time that general Sanford is giving his

1894
01:40:50,130 --> 01:40:45,610
press conference there the director of

1895
01:40:51,930 --> 01:40:50,140
Central Intelligence is briefing and

1896
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:51,940
being briefed by several other people

1897
01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:54,130
within the intelligence community one of

1898
01:41:01,979 --> 01:40:55,510
those is major Fernet

1899
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:01,989
and the CIA people the CIA director

1900
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:04,690
included is telling the people who are

1901
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:08,159
being briefed there that they have no

1902
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:11,679
conclusions as to what really caused the

1903
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:16,210
sightings of the UFO sightings on the

1904
01:41:22,589 --> 01:41:20,050
night of July 26 and 27 because within

1905
01:41:26,759 --> 01:41:22,599
the intelligence community at a

1906
01:41:29,790 --> 01:41:26,769
top-secret level there is major concern

1907
01:41:31,250 --> 01:41:29,800
and major questions being asked by

1908
01:41:34,049 --> 01:41:31,260
people in high places

1909
01:41:37,490 --> 01:41:34,059
so here it is they're putting this out

1910
01:41:43,669 --> 01:41:37,500
this is going to be the start of from

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01:41:47,390 --> 01:41:43,679
July all the way into January of 53

1912
01:41:49,470 --> 01:41:47,400
trying to formulate a conclusion on how

1913
01:41:52,169 --> 01:41:49,480
to go ahead and get the entire

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01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:52,179
intelligence community involved in UFO

1915
01:41:56,819 --> 01:41:54,730
research something that the Director of

1916
01:42:00,779 --> 01:41:56,829
Central Intelligence did not want to

1917
01:42:04,049 --> 01:42:00,789
happen it says here it's right in the

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01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:04,059
middle of page two visited visited with

1919
01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:07,449
major dewey fournette topical division

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01:42:13,370 --> 01:42:10,750
Directorate of intelligence USAF oh and

1921
01:42:17,069 --> 01:42:13,380
I and discuss the increase in

1922
01:42:21,629 --> 01:42:17,079
unidentified flying object reports there

1923
01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:21,639
were no conclusions and the meeting was

1924
01:42:29,060 --> 01:42:23,679
for a half hour and that was on July

1925
01:42:31,500 --> 01:42:29,070
29th yes there at the same time as the

1926
01:42:33,629 --> 01:42:31,510
conference is being held approximately

1927
01:42:36,839 --> 01:42:33,639
four doors down from where the Paris

1928
01:42:38,899 --> 01:42:36,849
conference was I wonder what would have

1929
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:38,909
happened if one of those newsmen

1930
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:41,050
accidentally went into the wrong room

1931
01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:42,880
and heard what was being said in this

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01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:48,760
particular room right right I can only

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01:42:53,580 --> 01:42:51,250
imagine Clifford

1934
01:42:56,759 --> 01:42:53,590
these conversations that were going out

1935
01:42:59,879 --> 01:42:56,769
at the Pentagon back then and with the

1936
01:43:02,609 --> 01:42:59,889
CIA all the way to the White House and

1937
01:43:04,830 --> 01:43:02,619
you know sir we're in the same situation

1938
01:43:08,410 --> 01:43:04,840
right now within the intelligence

1939
01:43:13,180 --> 01:43:08,420
community as they were

1940
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:13,190
then you have a group of people who know

1941
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:15,890
the truth and want that things to be

1942
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:18,320
brought out you have a group of people

1943
01:43:24,610 --> 01:43:20,960
which unfortunately has a powers-that-be

1944
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:24,620
in that group that still wants to keep

1945
01:43:29,169 --> 01:43:27,679
it under wraps but there's a struggle

1946
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:29,179
there and that's a good thing because

1947
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:32,239
ultimately I hope good wins out and the

1948
01:43:38,890 --> 01:43:35,330
team comes out but this right here it's

1949
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:38,900
a start because people don't believe

1950
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:42,110
that there is ever a period of time in

1951
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:46,960
which the truth almost came out and

1952
01:43:55,570 --> 01:43:51,890
actually we rest assured here again with

1953
01:43:57,220 --> 01:43:55,580
it possibly coming out because there are

1954
01:44:00,340 --> 01:43:57,230
other people other just being that are

1955
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:00,350
trying to get the documentation on the

1956
01:44:08,050 --> 01:44:05,170
research that was being done on the

1957
01:44:10,180 --> 01:44:08,060
unconventional aircraft that they were

1958
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:10,190
told to watch and also they were told

1959
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:13,760
you know even if you you know think that

1960
01:44:17,919 --> 01:44:15,440
this piece of contrived star that

1961
01:44:20,380 --> 01:44:17,929
they're making erratic maneuvers you

1962
01:44:22,300 --> 01:44:20,390
report that don't go ahead and try to

1963
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:22,310
make conclusions and you don't mind what

1964
01:44:27,580 --> 01:44:25,280
happened but you know the whole

1965
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:27,590
situation is they were doing research

1966
01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:29,449
and they've been doing it for a long

1967
01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:33,320
time even the CIA had directives on how

1968
01:44:44,620 --> 01:44:39,310
to do this research on unconventional

1969
01:44:48,130 --> 01:44:44,630
aircraft let's go to two weeks later

1970
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:48,140
after the press conference is this next

1971
01:44:55,780 --> 01:44:50,210
document which is dated the 14th of

1972
01:44:59,260 --> 01:44:55,790
August 1952 entitled flying saucers

1973
01:45:02,950 --> 01:44:59,270
again stamped secret and then approved

1974
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:02,960
for release in 2001 what did we get in

1975
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:09,170
this document well there's three

1976
01:45:17,169 --> 01:45:11,690
documents they're in the park for

1977
01:45:19,740 --> 01:45:17,179
section and these are documents that

1978
01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:19,750
show that shows that there truly was a

1979
01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:27,070
concern about UFOs being I and a

1980
01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:29,840
intelligence issue that there was

1981
01:45:39,459 --> 01:45:37,300
concerns about UFOs being concerns for

1982
01:45:42,370 --> 01:45:39,469
how they could be used even for

1983
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:42,380
psychological warfare people were trying

1984
01:45:48,970 --> 01:45:45,410
to downplay that and the whole situation

1985
01:45:51,370 --> 01:45:48,980
is there was no downplaying it because

1986
01:45:52,900 --> 01:45:51,380
we saw where we could use it there was

1987
01:45:57,070 --> 01:45:52,910
concerns that the Russians might see

1988
01:46:01,840 --> 01:45:57,080
whether they could use it and major

1989
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:01,850
effort was being made to show the

1990
01:46:08,979 --> 01:46:05,810
intelligence community intelligence

1991
01:46:13,410 --> 01:46:08,989
advisory committee actually what was

1992
01:46:16,260 --> 01:46:13,420
going on it says here this is an

1993
01:46:19,209 --> 01:46:16,270
incredible statement in this document

1994
01:46:22,689 --> 01:46:19,219
where they go on they talk about the

1995
01:46:24,250 --> 01:46:22,699
July 29th Arjun general Samford press

1996
01:46:26,050 --> 01:46:24,260
conference in which he stated that the

1997
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:26,060
analysis shows no pattern of anything

1998
01:46:30,910 --> 01:46:28,010
remotely consistent with any menace to

1999
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:30,920
the United States they go on to say at

2000
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,170
this point OSI felt that it would be

2001
01:46:37,689 --> 01:46:35,360
timely to make an evaluation of the Air

2002
01:46:40,180 --> 01:46:37,699
Force study its methodology and coverage

2003
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:40,190
the relation of its conclusions to

2004
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:42,310
various theories which have been

2005
01:46:48,010 --> 01:46:45,770
propounded and to try to reach some

2006
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:48,020
conclusion as to the intelligence

2007
01:46:55,630 --> 01:46:51,290
implications of the problem in view of

2008
01:46:58,419 --> 01:46:55,640
the white interest within the agency CIA

2009
01:47:02,380 --> 01:46:58,429
this briefing has been arranged so that

2010
01:47:04,780 --> 01:47:02,390
we could report on the survey it must be

2011
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,790
mentioned that outside knowledge of

2012
01:47:09,310 --> 01:47:07,040
agency interest in flying saucers

2013
01:47:12,130 --> 01:47:09,320
carries the risk of making the problem

2014
01:47:16,630 --> 01:47:12,140
even more serious in the public mind

2015
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:16,640
than it already is which we and airforce

2016
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:18,290
agree must

2017
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:23,570
be avoided yep that somebody was trying

2018
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:27,770
to convince the IAC at that time to stop

2019
01:47:32,260 --> 01:47:30,080
it we don't need to go any further it's

2020
01:47:34,150 --> 01:47:32,270
being handled taken care of by

2021
01:47:36,660 --> 01:47:34,160
appropriate authorities and people so we

2022
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:36,670
don't need to discuss this anymore

2023
01:47:41,470 --> 01:47:39,920
fortunately there were members of the

2024
01:47:44,710 --> 01:47:41,480
intelligence advisory committee that

2025
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:44,720
felt that there was something going on

2026
01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:46,850
and it needed to be discussed and also

2027
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:49,640
we needed to get the entire intelligence

2028
01:47:56,260 --> 01:47:52,610
community involved but at that time it

2029
01:47:59,650 --> 01:47:56,270
was not and why bother we already knew

2030
01:48:02,830 --> 01:47:59,660
the truth this is this is an incredible

2031
01:48:05,050 --> 01:48:02,840
document it says in order to supply both

2032
01:48:07,810 --> 01:48:05,060
breadth and depth to the survey we have

2033
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:07,820
reviewed our own intelligence going back

2034
01:48:13,090 --> 01:48:10,370
to the Swedish sightings of 1946

2035
01:48:15,070 --> 01:48:13,100
reviewed a large number of individual

2036
01:48:17,500 --> 01:48:15,080
official reports recent press and

2037
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:17,510
magazine coverage in the main popular

2038
01:48:22,570 --> 01:48:20,090
books indexes of Soviet press were

2039
01:48:24,580 --> 01:48:22,580
scanned we interviewed a representative

2040
01:48:27,130 --> 01:48:24,590
of air force special study group

2041
01:48:28,930 --> 01:48:27,140
following this we spent a day at Wright

2042
01:48:31,450 --> 01:48:28,940
Field in a thorough discussion with

2043
01:48:33,610 --> 01:48:31,460
officers conducting the eighty IC study

2044
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:33,620
and finally we took the problem to a

2045
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,170
selected group of our own consultants

2046
01:48:41,140 --> 01:48:38,480
all leaders in their scientific fields

2047
01:48:43,690 --> 01:48:41,150
from this we have come up with facts

2048
01:48:46,210 --> 01:48:43,700
theories and explanations and some

2049
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:46,220
conclusions which we will cover in a

2050
01:48:52,850 --> 01:48:49,770
brief summary of flying

2051
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:52,860
of flying saucers history an analysis of

2052
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:55,410
the ATI see work and a discussion of the

2053
01:48:59,840 --> 01:48:57,330
explained sightings and all possible

2054
01:49:03,260 --> 01:48:59,850
theories regarding the unexplained we

2055
01:49:06,290 --> 01:49:03,270
make no recommendations of actions we

2056
01:49:09,970 --> 01:49:06,300
would ask that questions be held till

2057
01:49:12,350 --> 01:49:09,980
the end Wow

2058
01:49:16,729 --> 01:49:12,360
that's the second document the first

2059
01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:16,739
document that was there because there's

2060
01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:20,400
three documents involved in part for

2061
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:20,910
there

2062
01:49:32,780 --> 01:49:29,850
the first document and and while you're

2063
01:49:36,350 --> 01:49:32,790
doing that it's pretty interesting here

2064
01:49:38,330 --> 01:49:36,360
that they mentioned Kenneth Arnold they

2065
01:49:40,810 --> 01:49:38,340
mention Kenneth Arnold a nine disc

2066
01:49:45,170 --> 01:49:40,820
flying information past Mount Ranier

2067
01:49:49,190 --> 01:49:45,180
than they mentioned a July 1947 from a

2068
01:49:50,630 --> 01:49:49,200
doctor in Phoenix Arizona I'm wondering

2069
01:49:52,970 --> 01:49:50,640
if that was Rhodes the pilot and

2070
01:49:56,900 --> 01:49:52,980
co-pilot of the United airliner in Boise

2071
01:50:00,530 --> 01:49:56,910
Idaho and field staff members at maroc

2072
01:50:02,180 --> 01:50:00,540
test Base in California these are all

2073
01:50:07,070 --> 01:50:02,190
sightings and they go back and mention

2074
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:07,080
Sweden the they talk about important yes

2075
01:50:13,330 --> 01:50:11,040
it is and the January 1948 interception

2076
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:13,340
was attempted at Goldman Field Kentucky

2077
01:50:21,620 --> 01:50:16,650
that of course a candidate

2078
01:50:25,630 --> 01:50:21,630
yep captain Mantell they bring up Fargo

2079
01:50:29,110 --> 01:50:25,640
North Dakota there's a whole list of

2080
01:50:36,350 --> 01:50:29,120
sightings here you know what's missing

2081
01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:36,360
Roswell very that that was a key the

2082
01:50:42,590 --> 01:50:38,310
whole situation is people who knew about

2083
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:42,600
the recovery of debris and even dead

2084
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:45,530
aliens people who knew about this stuff

2085
01:50:52,930 --> 01:50:49,170
was always cautioned you cannot go ahead

2086
01:50:58,030 --> 01:50:52,940
and conclude that UFOs have

2087
01:51:00,970 --> 01:50:58,040
interplanetary origin without quote

2088
01:51:05,860 --> 01:51:00,980
physical

2089
01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:05,870
knew that that was in these committees

2090
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:09,840
they knew it but here again if you are

2091
01:51:17,420 --> 01:51:12,170
going to be talking about something that

2092
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:17,430
pop secret compartments and considered

2093
01:51:24,650 --> 01:51:21,330
to be special access programs you cannot

2094
01:51:27,740 --> 01:51:24,660
talk openly about those or even bring

2095
01:51:29,630 --> 01:51:27,750
them up unless you know everyone in

2096
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:29,640
there is cleared with that information

2097
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:33,530
so that never happened and the first

2098
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:35,730
document that you would have there was

2099
01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:42,800
entitled intelligence advisory committee

2100
01:51:47,690 --> 01:51:45,540
unidentified flying objects as the title

2101
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,700
underneath out in parentheses flying

2102
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:49,920
saucers now this is where they went

2103
01:52:02,510 --> 01:51:59,210
ddic

2104
01:52:05,090 --> 01:52:02,520
but of course secretary love it would

2105
01:52:07,370 --> 01:52:05,100
later become head of the National

2106
01:52:10,430 --> 01:52:07,380
Security Council and that's why you had

2107
01:52:16,670 --> 01:52:10,440
that little handwritten in enclosures at

2108
01:52:20,090 --> 01:52:16,680
the top that says ultimately the the NSC

2109
01:52:24,440 --> 01:52:20,100
and I don't know how many pages are in

2110
01:52:26,180 --> 01:52:24,450
here but around 40 I'd say but that's

2111
01:52:29,450 --> 01:52:26,190
got some very interesting information in

2112
01:52:32,440 --> 01:52:29,460
it and of course this right here was the

2113
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:32,450
document that started to get the I

2114
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:36,510
ignore the IAC the intelligence advisory

2115
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:40,110
committee moving forward was trying to

2116
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:44,130
get the NFC involved which once again I

2117
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:46,770
have stress the director Central

2118
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:49,290
Intelligence did not want that to happen

2119
01:52:58,270 --> 01:52:53,520
any one UFOs we played down there

2120
01:53:03,950 --> 01:53:01,370
incidents that are in this document the

2121
01:53:06,620 --> 01:53:03,960
August 14th document and they talked

2122
01:53:09,359 --> 01:53:06,630
about to 12 it there's a whole load of

2123
01:53:13,049 --> 01:53:09,369
them and one of them

2124
01:53:15,089 --> 01:53:13,059
was in Sandy Hook and so they talked

2125
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:15,099
about that but then they continued and

2126
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:18,400
then it says the 30 q a the third

2127
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:22,210
occurred a few days ago at Wright Field

2128
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:26,170
and has not yet been fully analyzed to

2129
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:30,130
f94 s with gun cameras were vectored in

2130
01:53:38,959 --> 01:53:35,170
on on a blip both pilots cited the

2131
01:53:42,209 --> 01:53:38,969
object and one locked on with his AI

2132
01:53:44,819 --> 01:53:42,219
equipment reaching a maximum allowable

2133
01:53:52,260 --> 01:53:44,829
altitude he triggered his gun camera and

2134
01:53:53,939 --> 01:53:52,270
the negative shows an object these are

2135
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:53,949
amazing they could not find that Dylan

2136
01:54:00,720 --> 01:53:58,090
today in the bloom library it was never

2137
01:54:02,930 --> 01:54:00,730
sent to Blue Book it was sent to the

2138
01:54:05,689 --> 01:54:02,940
National total interpretation

2139
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:05,699
laboratories there at wright-patterson

2140
01:54:15,379 --> 01:54:10,570
later it was sent on in Washington DC to

2141
01:54:20,850 --> 01:54:17,850
there's another report in here I've

2142
01:54:23,879 --> 01:54:20,860
never heard about this one there's a few

2143
01:54:27,770 --> 01:54:23,889
in here one that an object was sighted

2144
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:27,780
over white sands on radar traveling at

2145
01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:39,250
18,000 miles per hour yes it was it was

2146
01:54:46,439 --> 01:54:41,800
all of that everything that is in this

2147
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:46,449
report was between July and August 14th

2148
01:54:55,140 --> 01:54:51,760
of 1947 I can't right now

2149
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was that the president wanted to be

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fully briefed and I got the documents

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01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:01,750
somewhere where it's surfaced again in

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57 where a general had to brief another

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01:55:13,020 --> 01:55:10,780
general because the gentleman he

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01:55:15,060 --> 01:55:13,030
breathed was going to breathe the

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01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:15,070
president of the United States who at

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01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:19,110
that time would have been Eisenhower um

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01:55:22,380 --> 01:55:22,090
Eisenhower avoided you know talking

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01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:22,390
about

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01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:27,030
UFOs but Eisenhower was very interested

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01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:30,490
we need to we need to get to a break

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01:55:37,370 --> 01:55:33,040
let's go to this next document which I

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01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:37,380
have open here which is dated October

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01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:40,450
11th intelligence advisory committee

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01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:44,440
flying objects flying saucers stamped a

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top-secret set us up for this and we'll

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01:55:53,430 --> 01:55:50,230
talk about it after the break okay sir

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01:55:56,010 --> 01:55:53,440
let me see if I'm finding that one this

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is October 11th which is oddly enough

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01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:00,610
the day after my birthday and attached

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is a proposed letter to the secretary

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01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:05,710
loved it from the DCI recommending the

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01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:07,300
initiation of fundamental scientific

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01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:10,090
research with respect to the nature and

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causes of unidentified flying object

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01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:17,440
flying saucers oh yeah this right here

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01:56:25,790 --> 01:56:21,310
was the first orientation of the end and

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the intelligence advisory committee to

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try to go ahead and work on a system in

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which the entire intelligence community

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to be involved and that's the one I said

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01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:38,440
was about 30 pages but this is a crucial

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01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:41,830
document right here because it started

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01:56:50,580 --> 01:56:45,270
you know conversation was in the IAC

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01:56:55,050 --> 01:56:50,590
about UFOs and about the need to go

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01:56:58,770 --> 01:56:55,060
ahead and get it where we can rapidly

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01:57:01,920 --> 01:56:58,780
identify the UFOs to where they're not

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01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:01,930
as threatening to the public today but

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01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:03,130
also they were trying to make it clear

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01:57:07,820 --> 01:57:06,010
we don't know what they are they appear

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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:07,830
to be under intelligent control and

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01:57:14,250 --> 01:57:10,450
they're exhibiting technology that we

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:14,260
might understand but we don't know how

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01:57:22,460 --> 01:57:18,130
to replicate and of course this again

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01:57:24,690 --> 01:57:22,470
was to make an effort to get that

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01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:24,700
National Security Council intelligence

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directive issued to where the entire

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intelligence community would be involved

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which the CIA did not want to do a lot

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01:57:36,659 --> 01:57:35,200
of people may not be aware of this but

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01:57:40,739 --> 01:57:36,669
Jay Edgar who

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has the FBI was very interested in UFOs

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and clearly believed that the CIA was

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01:57:47,850 --> 01:57:46,570
covering up UFOs and one of the things

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01:57:50,549 --> 01:57:47,860
that he learned from one of the people

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01:57:53,759 --> 01:57:50,559
who said in on the IAT one of the FBI

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01:57:56,399 --> 01:57:53,769
agents he reported back to J Edgar

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01:58:00,540 --> 01:57:56,409
Hoover that there were many people in

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01:58:03,330 --> 01:58:00,550
the Pentagon that believe some UFOs were

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in fact extraterrestrial vehicle he'll

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be getting as those documents here very

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shortly this right here this top this

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one document this is a document that

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01:58:18,659 --> 01:58:15,969
initially got things started to where

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01:58:22,049 --> 01:58:18,669
the IAC was saying okay we've had enough

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01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:22,059
baloney coming over here we need to

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01:58:29,250 --> 01:58:26,050
address this issue and from this day

2217
01:58:31,409 --> 01:58:29,260
forward all the way to actually it goes

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01:58:32,939 --> 01:58:31,419
in for February because that's when they

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01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:32,949
started to peel together people saying

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01:58:37,529 --> 01:58:35,050
you know the Robinson panel means at the

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01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:37,539
conclusion and things we should bunk all

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01:58:42,029 --> 01:58:39,610
this and we don't feel that we need to

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01:58:44,399 --> 01:58:42,039
bother the NSA now how do you feel about

2224
01:58:48,419 --> 01:58:44,409
it and of course they downplayed it and

2225
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:48,429
it died a quick death well we have here

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01:58:52,649 --> 01:58:49,840
you know the subject you know the

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01:58:56,189 --> 01:58:52,659
problem one two facts in discussion

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01:58:58,020 --> 01:58:56,199
three conclusions flying saucers opposed

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01:59:00,239 --> 01:58:58,030
to elements of danger which have

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01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:00,249
national security implications the first

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01:59:04,830 --> 01:59:02,530
involves mass psychological

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01:59:06,779 --> 01:59:04,840
considerations and the second concerns

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are the vulnerability of the United

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01:59:11,909 --> 01:59:10,300
States to air attack right right there

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in this document let's take a break

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01:59:16,979 --> 01:59:13,479
right here Clifford will continue with

2237
01:59:18,359 --> 01:59:16,989
this and get to all of them in these

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01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:18,369
next two segments of the show

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this is fade to black our guest tonight

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is Clifford stone we're discussing how

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close we were to disclosure you think

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it's heavy today back in 1952 it was

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seriously going down we're discussing

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all of this and we'll be right back stay

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[Applause]

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you wanna know a secret

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I love ponies I really love ponies I'm

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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radio network and kgr a the global radio

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welcome back paid to black an amazing

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02:04:40,730 --> 02:04:38,700
show tonight with Clifford stone these

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documents are absolutely incredible you

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can view all of them over at Jimmy

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Church radio.com you can go to the

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Clifford stone page and everything is

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there in order now Clifford looking at

2359
02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:52,230
this next document the October 11th

2360
02:04:56,300 --> 02:04:54,030
document we've got a lot more to cover

2361
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:56,310
here so we're gonna try to get through

2362
02:05:02,420 --> 02:04:58,800
as much of this as we can but on this

2363
02:05:04,580 --> 02:05:02,430
document pages 6 7 8 & 9 are

2364
02:05:08,090 --> 02:05:04,590
extraordinary and there's little clips

2365
02:05:11,870 --> 02:05:08,100
in each one that that stand out and and

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02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:11,880
one is in paragraph 3 on page 6 they

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02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:14,880
state since 1947 ATI si has received

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02:05:20,510 --> 02:05:18,000
approximately 1500 official reports of

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02:05:22,430 --> 02:05:20,520
sightings plus an enormous volume of

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02:05:26,780 --> 02:05:22,440
letters phone calls and press reports

2371
02:05:30,500 --> 02:05:26,790
during July 1952 alone official reports

2372
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:30,510
totaled 250 of the 1500 reports Air

2373
02:05:37,220 --> 02:05:34,170
Force carries a 20% as unexplained and

2374
02:05:39,110 --> 02:05:37,230
of those received from January through

2375
02:05:42,980 --> 02:05:39,120
not July 1952

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02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:42,990
it carries a 28 percent unexplained

2377
02:05:46,430 --> 02:05:45,570
that's an extraordinary statement in

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02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:46,440
this document

2379
02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:49,050
oh absolutely as a matter of fact it led

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02:05:56,810 --> 02:05:52,380
to some special orders being given

2381
02:05:58,610 --> 02:05:56,820
concerning that 1952 was largest number

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02:06:01,760 --> 02:05:58,620
of sightings of unidentified flying

2383
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:01,770
object imported officially to the US Air

2384
02:06:06,710 --> 02:06:05,280
Force and it was 1,500 actually there

2385
02:06:10,070 --> 02:06:06,720
was more than that but you know what

2386
02:06:16,370 --> 02:06:10,080
being officially reported it still stood

2387
02:06:17,990 --> 02:06:16,380
out 20% the Air Defense Command and even

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02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:18,000
general ring because the only me was

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02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:21,330
when I gave the order right that 20% is

2390
02:06:29,630 --> 02:06:25,050
too high of a percentage they needed to

2391
02:06:31,790 --> 02:06:29,640
get that percentage under 10% so the

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02:06:35,390 --> 02:06:31,800
whole situation is they were ordered

2393
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:35,400
they didn't care what the actual

2394
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:39,330
conclusion was or whatever but from here

2395
02:06:52,210 --> 02:06:44,730
on in it would be under and this started

2396
02:07:00,590 --> 02:06:56,330
20% as a matter of fact it would behoove

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02:07:03,290 --> 02:07:00,600
them to make it under 10% from that year

2398
02:07:08,590 --> 02:07:03,300
on essentially every percentage of

2399
02:07:14,270 --> 02:07:08,600
unknowns was on the air each 7.7%

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02:07:16,250 --> 02:07:14,280
unknowns with that being said you would

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02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:16,260
have UFOs they would be identified as

2402
02:07:22,810 --> 02:07:18,800
possible aircraft possible meteors

2403
02:07:25,700 --> 02:07:22,820
possible while weather anomalies and

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02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:25,710
what would happen that go ahead and pose

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that when it died no longer was

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02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:31,470
newsworthy to the national media they

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02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:34,970
would change that possible to aircraft

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that possible meteor to meteor it didn't

2409
02:07:45,590 --> 02:07:41,790
have to be true after all

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02:07:47,870 --> 02:07:45,600
Blue Book was to serve as a public

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02:07:49,900 --> 02:07:47,880
relations organization best way to show

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02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:49,910
this is that the National Reconnaissance

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02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:51,840
Organization had already addressed that

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02:07:57,470 --> 02:07:55,170
some people were reporting our high

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flying reconnaissance aircraft like

2416
02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:01,410
YouTube at our 71 870 all these good

2417
02:08:05,630 --> 02:08:03,690
things they were reporting these and

2418
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:05,640
they would appear unusual people was

2419
02:08:12,140 --> 02:08:09,690
used to seeing them as you are Mo's and

2420
02:08:15,110 --> 02:08:12,150
of course Blue Book do this but they had

2421
02:08:17,780 --> 02:08:15,120
to go ahead and say well it was possibly

2422
02:08:19,970 --> 02:08:17,790
an aircraft me or whatever to just keep

2423
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:19,980
it quiet because the NRO at that time

2424
02:08:26,150 --> 02:08:23,850
it's no secret that very few people even

2425
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:26,160
within the US government knew of the

2426
02:08:33,530 --> 02:08:28,800
existence of that organization Congress

2427
02:08:37,850 --> 02:08:33,540
didn't know about it until 1992 for the

2428
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:37,860
first time 1992 the NRA the existence of

2429
02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:42,000
it became known but part of that no so

2430
02:08:45,590 --> 02:08:43,410
the whole situation is they try to

2431
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:45,600
downplay it that way in the CIA did a

2432
02:08:52,010 --> 02:08:48,210
document dealing with UFOs trying to

2433
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:52,020
explain it the same way none of that was

2434
02:08:58,000 --> 02:08:55,650
true simply because the cases that was

2435
02:09:00,160 --> 02:08:58,010
really investigated by Air Force

2436
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:00,170
with beginning officer podium a close

2437
02:09:04,540 --> 02:09:01,850
second air Intelligence Service squadron

2438
02:09:06,670 --> 02:09:04,550
and the same beat by a different name

2439
02:09:08,380 --> 02:09:06,680
all the way through to the closure of

2440
02:09:11,470 --> 02:09:08,390
Blue Book and after that it still

2441
02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:11,480
continued all the information critical

2442
02:09:19,660 --> 02:09:14,090
information was reported back to the the

2443
02:09:24,610 --> 02:09:19,670
CIA's office of scientific intelligence

2444
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:24,620
does this day that office has the truth

2445
02:09:30,490 --> 02:09:27,650
of what we need to know that out of this

2446
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:30,500
maintains file also on moondust and blue

2447
02:09:34,930 --> 02:09:32,930
flight there's a big debate over that

2448
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:34,940
because NASA thought they should be more

2449
02:09:41,580 --> 02:09:37,520
involved and the officers are special

2450
02:09:42,910 --> 02:09:41,590
and Office of Scientific intelligence

2451
02:09:45,700 --> 02:09:42,920
told

2452
02:09:48,420 --> 02:09:45,710
NASA essentially to back off you do what

2453
02:09:53,710 --> 02:09:48,430
we tell you you don't get a lot to do

2454
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:53,720
also the the report states here that and

2455
02:09:58,330 --> 02:09:55,850
I can read this actually directly it's a

2456
02:10:00,550 --> 02:09:58,340
it's a pretty pretty amazing thing for

2457
02:10:06,070 --> 02:10:00,560
them to say it says says that the United

2458
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:06,080
States press and the population with the

2459
02:10:11,170 --> 02:10:07,970
Air Force indicates that a fair

2460
02:10:14,110 --> 02:10:11,180
proportion of our population is mentally

2461
02:10:16,930 --> 02:10:14,120
conditioned to the acceptance of the

2462
02:10:19,150 --> 02:10:16,940
incredible in this fact lies the

2463
02:10:22,180 --> 02:10:19,160
potential for the touching off of mass

2464
02:10:24,670 --> 02:10:22,190
hysteria and panic so they were

2465
02:10:27,250 --> 02:10:24,680
obviously trying to deal with you know

2466
02:10:28,690 --> 02:10:27,260
they wanted to you know bring this out

2467
02:10:30,430 --> 02:10:28,700
to the public they felt that the public

2468
02:10:33,330 --> 02:10:30,440
could handle it but they were also

2469
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:33,340
afraid of mass hysteria if they were

2470
02:10:39,070 --> 02:10:36,770
reveal the truth and they continue on to

2471
02:10:42,820 --> 02:10:39,080
say from an operational point of view

2472
02:10:44,220 --> 02:10:42,830
three actions are required a immediate

2473
02:10:46,330 --> 02:10:44,230
steps should be taken to improve

2474
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:46,340
identification of both visual and

2475
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:48,770
electronic phantom so that in the event

2476
02:10:54,610 --> 02:10:51,440
of an attack an incident positive

2477
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:54,620
identification can be made be a study

2478
02:11:00,850 --> 02:10:56,960
should be instituted to determine what

2479
02:11:04,060 --> 02:11:00,860
if any Ulta utilization could be made of

2480
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:04,070
these phenomena right by the United

2481
02:11:09,220 --> 02:11:06,530
States psychological warfare planners

2482
02:11:11,530 --> 02:11:09,230
and what if any defenses could be

2483
02:11:16,250 --> 02:11:11,540
planned in anticipation of

2484
02:11:19,460 --> 02:11:16,260
attempts to utilize them see in order to

2485
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:19,470
minimize risk of panic a national policy

2486
02:11:24,910 --> 02:11:21,570
should be established as to what should

2487
02:11:28,220 --> 02:11:24,920
be told to the public regarding the

2488
02:11:30,650 --> 02:11:28,230
phenomenon internationally about the

2489
02:11:34,220 --> 02:11:30,660
psychological warfare situation yes that

2490
02:11:38,150 --> 02:11:34,230
was addressed in January of 1952 by the

2491
02:11:39,980 --> 02:11:38,160
psychological intelligence group there

2492
02:11:43,850 --> 02:11:39,990
and you actually had the documents there

2493
02:11:47,150 --> 02:11:43,860
yes I have it and they were also well

2494
02:11:51,020 --> 02:11:47,160
we'll get to that next they were

2495
02:11:55,580 --> 02:11:51,030
desperately scrambling to find out what

2496
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:55,590
the Soviets knew about UFOs and ETS they

2497
02:12:00,740 --> 02:11:58,560
they you know the Soviet Union was so

2498
02:12:02,330 --> 02:12:00,750
closed down back then it was difficult

2499
02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:02,340
for us to get that information and they

2500
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:06,000
make that point here and also how the

2501
02:12:11,390 --> 02:12:09,090
Soviets could take advantage of the

2502
02:12:13,730 --> 02:12:11,400
technology and I'm quoting here to

2503
02:12:16,090 --> 02:12:13,740
utilize the phenomena to the detriment

2504
02:12:18,980 --> 02:12:16,100
of the United States security interest

2505
02:12:21,710 --> 02:12:18,990
but everyone knows UFOs don't exist how

2506
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:21,720
can it be a technology that's right and

2507
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:23,610
it's right here clearly stated in the

2508
02:12:32,530 --> 02:12:29,730
document let's go yes it's it's

2509
02:12:35,330 --> 02:12:32,540
incredible reading incredible let's uh

2510
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:35,340
let's get to as much of these as we can

2511
02:12:45,740 --> 02:12:38,610
before the next break the next one is a

2512
02:12:51,110 --> 02:12:45,750
CIA document and this is dated document

2513
02:12:58,280 --> 02:12:51,120
nineteen first of January 19 January 1

2514
02:13:07,610 --> 02:12:58,290
1950 to something saucers yes that right

2515
02:13:11,780 --> 02:13:07,620
there is by the the psychological board

2516
02:13:17,090 --> 02:13:11,790
within the CIA and what they were trying

2517
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:17,100
to do show that there was concerns on

2518
02:13:24,170 --> 02:13:22,050
how the UFO phenomena could be exploited

2519
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,180
and the

2520
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:26,400
the first page paragraph one I think

2521
02:13:32,750 --> 02:13:30,810
says it best that it was concluded that

2522
02:13:34,940 --> 02:13:32,760
problems connected with unidentified

2523
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:34,950
flying objects appear to have

2524
02:13:39,470 --> 02:13:36,930
implications for psychological warfare

2525
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:39,480
as well as for intelligence and

2526
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:42,450
operations and that's what all this

2527
02:13:47,150 --> 02:13:44,970
report right here was to do bring into

2528
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:47,160
play they played a critical part after

2529
02:13:58,180 --> 02:13:53,970
the August 26 27 tonight UFO sightings

2530
02:14:00,770 --> 02:13:58,190
over Washington DC because the

2531
02:14:02,660 --> 02:14:00,780
government was trying to build that up

2532
02:14:05,450 --> 02:14:02,670
or dare I say the CIA was trying to

2533
02:14:08,420 --> 02:14:05,460
build that up while keeping the critical

2534
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,430
factors that some UFOs may be someone

2535
02:14:11,690 --> 02:14:10,800
else's spacecraft visiting us from

2536
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:11,700
somewheres else

2537
02:14:16,220 --> 02:14:14,970
from Mountain the cosmos so that it

2538
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:16,230
played a major role in trying to

2539
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:19,440
downplay the entire intelligence

2540
02:14:22,610 --> 02:14:21,360
community getting involved but like I

2541
02:14:26,540 --> 02:14:22,620
say IAC

2542
02:14:29,810 --> 02:14:26,550
was really pushing to get the entire

2543
02:14:32,890 --> 02:14:29,820
intelligence community involved and had

2544
02:14:36,530 --> 02:14:32,900
that happen had the National Security

2545
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:36,540
Agency National Security Council issued

2546
02:14:45,620 --> 02:14:38,970
the intelligence director of dealing

2547
02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:45,630
with UFOs in 1953 February of 1952 r53

2548
02:14:53,540 --> 02:14:50,370
is when it will happen then by mid 50 3

2549
02:14:57,530 --> 02:14:53,550
the truth would have been out about UFOs

2550
02:15:01,820 --> 02:14:57,540
being of extra origin he checked this

2551
02:15:04,670 --> 02:15:01,830
out I suggest that we discuss an early

2552
02:15:08,450 --> 02:15:04,680
board meeting the possible offensive or

2553
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:08,460
defensive utilization of these phenomena

2554
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:11,130
for psychological warfare purposes

2555
02:15:21,410 --> 02:15:15,570
signed Walter B Smith director of the

2556
02:15:24,770 --> 02:15:21,420
CIA mad that is nuts

2557
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:24,780
what a crazy document ok let's let's get

2558
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:26,490
the next one in here before the break

2559
02:15:36,439 --> 02:15:32,490
which is December this is document 14

2560
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:36,449
December 11th 1952

2561
02:15:44,709 --> 02:15:40,320
again stamped a top-secret interest in

2562
02:15:45,979 --> 02:15:44,719
flying saucers Thursday 11th December

2563
02:15:56,419 --> 02:15:45,989
1952

2564
02:15:58,250 --> 02:15:56,429
oh that Stockton recording yes uh yeah

2565
02:16:03,050 --> 02:15:58,260
that's showing where J Edgar Hoover was

2566
02:16:08,300 --> 02:16:03,060
very concerned about the CIA not being

2567
02:16:11,149 --> 02:16:08,310
fully truthful with in the intelligence

2568
02:16:13,479 --> 02:16:11,159
advisory committees meetings dealing

2569
02:16:16,850 --> 02:16:13,489
with UFOs so he wanted more information

2570
02:16:21,290 --> 02:16:16,860
from the CIA the director of the CIA

2571
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:21,300
took offense to the suggestion that who

2572
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:25,920
were made and pungently referred to he

2573
02:16:30,620 --> 02:16:27,360
really wants to know the truth why

2574
02:16:36,740 --> 02:16:30,630
doesn't he himself attend the IAC

2575
02:16:40,509 --> 02:16:36,750
meeting wow this is uh this is nuts all

2576
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:40,519
the way up to Christmas Eve by the way

2577
02:16:46,429 --> 02:16:43,200
Christmas Eve checked with blank on the

2578
02:16:48,799 --> 02:16:46,439
status of the briefing on flying saucers

2579
02:16:51,679 --> 02:16:48,809
has been in touch with blank and no

2580
02:16:56,450 --> 02:16:51,689
further follow-up is necessary from here

2581
02:16:57,950 --> 02:16:56,460
yeah he was pretty upset it was that mr.

2582
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:57,960
Hoover is very interested in the subject

2583
02:17:02,719 --> 02:17:00,719
of flying saucers has been reported to

2584
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:02,729
him that the matter was discussed at the

2585
02:17:08,660 --> 02:17:05,760
IAC meeting of the 4th of December mr.

2586
02:17:11,810 --> 02:17:08,670
Hoover had asked him saying obtain as

2587
02:17:20,389 --> 02:17:11,820
much information as we are willing to

2588
02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:20,399
give him that is incredible and the next

2589
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:26,820
one is December 14th am I reading this

2590
02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:32,130
right no December 20 document 21 am i

2591
02:17:42,200 --> 02:17:38,690
close enough but it could be October

2592
02:17:44,030 --> 02:17:42,210
27th yes if you like a memo I got the

2593
02:17:46,009 --> 02:17:44,040
eye memorandum I've got it office

2594
02:17:48,290 --> 02:17:46,019
memorandum--united states government

2595
02:17:50,150 --> 02:17:48,300
here we go subject flying saucers

2596
02:17:54,020 --> 02:17:50,160
October 27 19

2597
02:17:57,320 --> 02:17:54,030
fifty-two go ahead okay this one right

2598
02:18:00,010 --> 02:17:57,330
here shows that the agents that attended

2599
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:00,020
the I that attended to the armed and

2600
02:18:07,270 --> 02:18:03,090
intelligence advisory committees

2601
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:07,280
meetings was informed in the synopsis

2602
02:18:15,770 --> 02:18:11,570
air intelligence prize of another

2603
02:18:18,770 --> 02:18:15,780
incredible and unexplainable sighting of

2604
02:18:21,590 --> 02:18:18,780
running saucers air intelligence still

2605
02:18:27,700 --> 02:18:21,600
field flying saucers are optical

2606
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:27,710
illusions are atmospheric phenomena

2607
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:32,010
atmospheric phenomena but some military

2608
02:18:39,530 --> 02:18:37,610
officials are seriously continuously

2609
02:18:42,860 --> 02:18:39,540
considering the possibility of

2610
02:18:45,140 --> 02:18:42,870
interplanetary spacecraft and of course

2611
02:18:50,930 --> 02:18:45,150
that was the key factor with the AIC

2612
02:18:53,510 --> 02:18:50,940
doing what they were doing so with him

2613
02:18:58,850 --> 02:18:53,520
being told that he's out that somebody

2614
02:19:00,500 --> 02:18:58,860
within the IAC had the answers and it

2615
02:19:03,230 --> 02:19:00,510
goes all the way back to the director of

2616
02:19:05,690 --> 02:19:03,240
Central Intelligence because this is the

2617
02:19:08,750 --> 02:19:05,700
one that's trying to downplay the UFOs

2618
02:19:11,750 --> 02:19:08,760
as having anything of any real

2619
02:19:14,270 --> 02:19:11,760
significant you know being a matter of

2620
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:14,280
national advance sure they might go

2621
02:19:18,860 --> 02:19:16,290
ahead and interfere with an enemy attack

2622
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:18,870
on the US so yeah we might want to be a

2623
02:19:24,530 --> 02:19:21,090
little concerned about that check this

2624
02:19:26,510 --> 02:19:24,540
last who were more concerned because we

2625
02:19:29,870 --> 02:19:26,520
went ahead and got an agreement with

2626
02:19:31,970 --> 02:19:29,880
former Soviet states and the US that is

2627
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:31,980
a large number of UFOs were being picked

2628
02:19:38,540 --> 02:19:34,370
up coming in over the Arctic Circle

2629
02:19:41,150 --> 02:19:38,550
before we launched an attack on this

2630
02:19:43,220 --> 02:19:41,160
former Soviet states we would contact

2631
02:19:46,250 --> 02:19:43,230
them see if they were responsible for

2632
02:19:50,210 --> 02:19:46,260
those objects because many objects on

2633
02:19:53,511 --> 02:19:50,220
many instances there were alerts that

2634
02:19:56,390 --> 02:19:53,521
put our bombers and our fighters on

2635
02:19:58,220 --> 02:19:56,400
alert and become airborne heading

2636
02:20:00,490 --> 02:19:58,230
towards their targets because of these

2637
02:20:02,810 --> 02:20:00,500
large number of UFOs being picked up

2638
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:02,820
coming from over the Arctic Circle which

2639
02:20:08,330 --> 02:20:04,080
would be the exact

2640
02:20:10,940 --> 02:20:08,340
that incoming ICBMs and enemy bombers

2641
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:10,950
would be following to attack the u.s. in

2642
02:20:17,060 --> 02:20:13,530
this document I remember now when I went

2643
02:20:20,540 --> 02:20:17,070
through these this statement here in the

2644
02:20:24,740 --> 02:20:20,550
second paragraph on on on page 2 or page

2645
02:20:26,750 --> 02:20:24,750
1 is this statement the air technical

2646
02:20:29,720 --> 02:20:26,760
Intelligence Center have advised that

2647
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:29,730
after careful study there were as many

2648
02:20:36,830 --> 02:20:33,570
as 12 to 16 flying objects recorded on

2649
02:20:39,950 --> 02:20:36,840
this film that the possibility of

2650
02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:39,960
weather balloons clouds or other

2651
02:20:48,860 --> 02:20:43,650
explainable objects has been completely

2652
02:20:51,650 --> 02:20:48,870
ruled out it's right there the air

2653
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:51,660
technical Intelligence Center experts

2654
02:20:57,130 --> 02:20:54,240
pointed out that they do not that they

2655
02:21:00,500 --> 02:20:57,140
could not be optical illusions as

2656
02:21:05,030 --> 02:21:00,510
optical illusions could not be recorded

2657
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:05,040
on film end of statement right there in

2658
02:21:09,051 --> 02:21:07,290
this document this is one of the most

2659
02:21:12,380 --> 02:21:09,061
impressive documents I've ever seen

2660
02:21:15,410 --> 02:21:12,390
right here that is incredible all of

2661
02:21:18,650 --> 02:21:15,420
these are incredible but that's that's

2662
02:21:23,270 --> 02:21:18,660
just almost too much to absorb now we've

2663
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:23,280
got another document which is also oh

2664
02:21:32,301 --> 02:21:27,170
wait a minute no I'm sorry I apologize I

2665
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:32,311
opened up the same one document this is

2666
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:39,930
document 28 January 18 1953 secret

2667
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:43,410
security information is the title

2668
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:45,600
reported meetings of scientific advisory

2669
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:48,450
panel on unidentified flying objects

2670
02:21:54,470 --> 02:21:50,370
convened by the Office of Scientific

2671
02:22:00,470 --> 02:21:54,480
intelligence CIA January 14th through

2672
02:22:02,660 --> 02:22:00,480
the 18th 1953 F C Durant this right here

2673
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:02,670
is what they call the Robinson panel

2674
02:22:08,360 --> 02:22:05,490
report and it's a synopsis on what

2675
02:22:10,580 --> 02:22:08,370
happens from day to day you have major

2676
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:10,590
Fernet going there telling them hey look

2677
02:22:16,310 --> 02:22:13,530
this these cases here are some of the

2678
02:22:17,960 --> 02:22:16,320
best cases we have we've been over them

2679
02:22:21,349 --> 02:22:17,970
very carefully

2680
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:21,359
and we eliminated the possibilities of

2681
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:23,850
them being weather balloons temperature

2682
02:22:29,979 --> 02:22:27,330
inversions and all of that and leaving

2683
02:22:34,519 --> 02:22:29,989
us with only one possible conclusion

2684
02:22:39,290 --> 02:22:34,529
these cases represent objects of unknown

2685
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:39,300
origin originating from an another solar

2686
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:41,850
system or outer space that the only

2687
02:22:47,389 --> 02:22:43,770
conclusion we can reach is that these

2688
02:22:50,090 --> 02:22:47,399
are extraterrestrial spaceships well of

2689
02:22:52,519 --> 02:22:50,100
course you know before the Robbins panel

2690
02:22:55,550 --> 02:22:52,529
met the director of the CIA met with

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02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:55,560
them and gave them their instructions on

2692
02:23:00,139 --> 02:22:56,850
how they were to deal with this once

2693
02:23:03,519 --> 02:23:00,149
again they inform them to not conclude

2694
02:23:07,880 --> 02:23:03,529
they are interplanetary without first

2695
02:23:09,530 --> 02:23:07,890
having hard physical evidence so

2696
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:09,540
therefore they rejected maker for net

2697
02:23:13,610 --> 02:23:11,760
being out of hand now the National

2698
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:13,620
Reconnaissance Organization only they

2699
02:23:19,460 --> 02:23:16,080
came in as like they were with the

2700
02:23:23,769 --> 02:23:19,470
Office of Naval Operations and the

2701
02:23:26,030 --> 02:23:23,779
national photo interpretation office

2702
02:23:30,559 --> 02:23:26,040
stating that they had done hundreds of

2703
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:30,569
hours on the two films that they had

2704
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:33,930
there and stated that the only

2705
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:36,090
conclusion they could have was that

2706
02:23:40,690 --> 02:23:38,010
these were solid or these were solid

2707
02:23:43,790 --> 02:23:40,700
objects and they were possibly

2708
02:23:47,750 --> 02:23:43,800
interplanetary spacecraft they reject

2709
02:23:49,309 --> 02:23:47,760
that the panel was bent around nursing

2710
02:23:52,820 --> 02:23:49,319
calmly going out playing on the golf

2711
02:23:55,130 --> 02:23:52,830
course concluded oh well you know these

2712
02:24:00,979 --> 02:23:55,140
are probably just weather balloons are

2713
02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:00,989
there are these particularly in the one

2714
02:24:07,729 --> 02:24:03,450
film that was out west that they were

2715
02:24:09,889 --> 02:24:07,739
just geese and they you know the experts

2716
02:24:11,900 --> 02:24:09,899
were totally wrong but these were

2717
02:24:14,030 --> 02:24:11,910
supposed to be the scientific experts

2718
02:24:16,639 --> 02:24:14,040
now I want to point out one thing about

2719
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:16,649
the scientific experts on the Robinson

2720
02:24:22,070 --> 02:24:17,600
panel

2721
02:24:25,010 --> 02:24:22,080
more than two-thirds of them worked in

2722
02:24:26,900 --> 02:24:25,020
trying to identify the ghost rockets and

2723
02:24:31,211 --> 02:24:26,910
47 which the US government want to keep

2724
02:24:33,310 --> 02:24:31,221
very quiet about and the whole situation

2725
02:24:36,430 --> 02:24:33,320
given their best efforts they could not

2726
02:24:39,820 --> 02:24:36,440
find any crash debris of those objects

2727
02:24:42,581 --> 02:24:39,830
in 46 going over Sweden and Denmark mmm

2728
02:24:44,171 --> 02:24:42,591
yet in the Robinson tunnel report they

2729
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:44,181
make it clear while these things were

2730
02:24:50,621 --> 02:24:48,650
real then we would find crash Tabriz and

2731
02:24:53,140 --> 02:24:50,631
all that which we already had done but

2732
02:24:55,961 --> 02:24:53,150
the Robinson talon was a secret report

2733
02:24:58,051 --> 02:24:55,971
secret group therefore they could not

2734
02:25:01,150 --> 02:24:58,061
have exposure to anything above secret

2735
02:25:03,671 --> 02:25:01,160
so they were stuck that's all they could

2736
02:25:07,541 --> 02:25:03,681
talk about well here it was with the

2737
02:25:10,780 --> 02:25:07,551
goals of those rockets they negated the

2738
02:25:13,631 --> 02:25:10,790
fact that more than two-thirds of them

2739
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:13,641
worked on the investigation of those but

2740
02:25:17,711 --> 02:25:15,290
they didn't find you no need to Bree

2741
02:25:21,940 --> 02:25:17,721
neither but they go back to the Second

2742
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:21,950
World War people reporting these objects

2743
02:25:27,940 --> 02:25:25,040
is rockets and of course you know they

2744
02:25:29,801 --> 02:25:27,950
looked into it and it was confirmed very

2745
02:25:31,871 --> 02:25:29,811
shortly thereafter at getting some

2746
02:25:35,411 --> 02:25:31,881
reports about them that they did exist

2747
02:25:37,211 --> 02:25:35,421
because they found debris well no one

2748
02:25:40,780 --> 02:25:37,221
brought up about the ghost Rockets there

2749
02:25:43,860 --> 02:25:40,790
in Sweden and Denmark then you take in

2750
02:25:46,631 --> 02:25:43,870
the other consideration once again

2751
02:25:48,791 --> 02:25:46,641
two-thirds or more worked on what was

2752
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:48,801
called Project twinkle the green

2753
02:25:59,320 --> 02:25:54,110
fireball phenomenon here in New Mexico

2754
02:26:01,690 --> 02:25:59,330
Texas Arizona about primarily New Mexico

2755
02:26:04,421 --> 02:26:01,700
well here again these people that worked

2756
02:26:07,060 --> 02:26:04,431
on it the scientists who were there with

2757
02:26:09,251 --> 02:26:07,070
the Robinson panels and two thirds or so

2758
02:26:13,240 --> 02:26:09,261
that worked with this project felt that

2759
02:26:16,810 --> 02:26:13,250
the green fireball phenomenon was a very

2760
02:26:18,461 --> 02:26:16,820
serious concern and a potential threat

2761
02:26:21,041 --> 02:26:18,471
to the national security of the United

2762
02:26:24,310 --> 02:26:21,051
States but that's not brought out in the

2763
02:26:27,161 --> 02:26:24,320
Robinson panel what happens is the

2764
02:26:31,690 --> 02:26:27,171
Robinson panel concludes there's nothing

2765
02:26:34,930 --> 02:26:31,700
to UFOs and that the best we could do

2766
02:26:39,450 --> 02:26:34,940
and what we should do is go ahead and

2767
02:26:43,180 --> 02:26:39,460
discourage people from reporting UFOs

2768
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:43,190
period thus began operation in ridicule

2769
02:26:47,690 --> 02:26:45,120
which essentially if people reported

2770
02:26:50,750 --> 02:26:47,700
suppose they should be ridiculed and

2771
02:26:56,660 --> 02:26:50,760
made to look silly so others wouldn't

2772
02:26:58,849 --> 02:26:56,670
report it this led to in status report -

2773
02:27:02,120 --> 02:26:58,859
I think it is Project Blue Book status

2774
02:27:04,849 --> 02:27:02,130
report - - one lot more up with a group

2775
02:27:07,190 --> 02:27:04,859
of pilots being briefed about UFOs one

2776
02:27:09,349 --> 02:27:07,200
of the pilots went ahead and stated that

2777
02:27:12,670 --> 02:27:09,359
he could be flying wing tip to wing tip

2778
02:27:15,860 --> 02:27:12,680
with a spaceship and would not report it

2779
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:15,870
this created major concern to the air

2780
02:27:21,469 --> 02:27:18,720
defense command because they may be

2781
02:27:24,139 --> 02:27:21,479
flying wing tip to wing tip with an

2782
02:27:27,410 --> 02:27:24,149
enemy aircraft that was coming here to

2783
02:27:30,530 --> 02:27:27,420
invade the United States and because it

2784
02:27:31,820 --> 02:27:30,540
had an unusual configuration they did

2785
02:27:33,880 --> 02:27:31,830
not want to be called foolish because

2786
02:27:37,130 --> 02:27:33,890
they reported a UFO

2787
02:27:40,910 --> 02:27:37,140
so and this Robinson panel was important

2788
02:27:43,070 --> 02:27:40,920
because this is what stopped the

2789
02:27:46,940 --> 02:27:43,080
National Security Council from even

2790
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:46,950
being briefed officially on UFOs that's

2791
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:49,200
right and one of the things that they

2792
02:27:56,500 --> 02:27:53,130
clearly tried to do here in the

2793
02:27:59,330 --> 02:27:56,510
Robertson report was that now we can

2794
02:28:03,590 --> 02:27:59,340
always use the instability of the

2795
02:28:07,940 --> 02:28:03,600
witnesses we can use the the brevity of

2796
02:28:12,950 --> 02:28:07,950
the sightings that the instability of

2797
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:12,960
the witnesses they they used you know a

2798
02:28:19,550 --> 02:28:15,600
half a dozen or a dozen specific cases

2799
02:28:22,580 --> 02:28:19,560
like Belafonte no hiyo and Utah in in

2800
02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:22,590
July 2nd 1952 Great Falls Montana

2801
02:28:29,179 --> 02:28:27,120
of course Washington DC and Haneda Air

2802
02:28:32,540 --> 02:28:29,189
Force Base in Japan

2803
02:28:35,150 --> 02:28:32,550
Port Huron and Michigan these different

2804
02:28:37,550 --> 02:28:35,160
cases were each one of these cases and

2805
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:37,560
they specifically said this that each

2806
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:41,610
one of these cases could

2807
02:28:49,370 --> 02:28:44,880
have reasonable explanations that could

2808
02:28:53,660 --> 02:28:49,380
be used back to the press and therefore

2809
02:28:56,890 --> 02:28:53,670
we can always explain away each one of

2810
02:29:02,270 --> 02:28:56,900
these sightings and we don't have to

2811
02:29:04,940 --> 02:29:02,280
present our official determinations to

2812
02:29:08,711 --> 02:29:04,950
these and that it would be better that

2813
02:29:11,780 --> 02:29:08,721
we didn't present our conclusive

2814
02:29:14,990 --> 02:29:11,790
explanations every time and that's

2815
02:29:17,570 --> 02:29:15,000
that's that's a for the Robertson report

2816
02:29:19,421 --> 02:29:17,580
to actually say that this is how we

2817
02:29:22,091 --> 02:29:19,431
should handle this moving forward

2818
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:22,101
instead of presenting the public with

2819
02:29:31,490 --> 02:29:26,130
the actual facts Rupa was there showing

2820
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:31,500
film Rubel was there trying to and that

2821
02:29:36,770 --> 02:29:34,530
the panel didn't want to take that tack

2822
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:36,780
they wanted to go the opposite with this

2823
02:29:41,060 --> 02:29:39,450
and throw softballs to the public and

2824
02:29:43,791 --> 02:29:41,070
that's that's what I get out of the

2825
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:43,801
Robertson report oh oh yeah well no this

2826
02:29:52,570 --> 02:29:46,080
report actually the report you have

2827
02:29:56,570 --> 02:29:52,580
right now was released in December 2017

2828
02:30:00,200 --> 02:29:56,580
prior to that they released similar they

2829
02:30:01,820 --> 02:30:00,210
released a report that was similar to

2830
02:30:04,820 --> 02:30:01,830
this one don't gonna listen right here

2831
02:30:06,620 --> 02:30:04,830
had been released prior to that but all

2832
02:30:09,020 --> 02:30:06,630
the information is the same it was in it

2833
02:30:12,650 --> 02:30:09,030
but it was very difficult to read and

2834
02:30:16,581 --> 02:30:12,660
the CIA said this is the best copy we

2835
02:30:19,551 --> 02:30:16,591
have so you know when this one came out

2836
02:30:22,671 --> 02:30:19,561
it wasn't part of they have two files on

2837
02:30:23,961 --> 02:30:22,681
UFOs CIA does well let's say leopard let

2838
02:30:25,881 --> 02:30:23,971
me jump in right there I got to take a

2839
02:30:28,100 --> 02:30:25,891
break I got to take a hard break right

2840
02:30:30,350 --> 02:30:28,110
here with the network so let's get this

2841
02:30:32,390 --> 02:30:30,360
last break-in and then we'll come back

2842
02:30:34,220 --> 02:30:32,400
and go through the rest of the stuff

2843
02:30:36,530 --> 02:30:34,230
that we have and come to some

2844
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:36,540
conclusions with you so stay right there

2845
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:38,880
my guest tonight is Clifford stone we've

2846
02:30:44,270 --> 02:30:41,130
got a lot of stuff to go through tonight

2847
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:44,280
and we're gonna get it all in this is

2848
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:46,170
fade to black all of the documents are

2849
02:30:51,130 --> 02:30:49,530
over at Jimmy Church radio.com or gets a

2850
02:30:53,500 --> 02:30:51,140
night Clifford stone

2851
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:53,510
discussing disclosure that what went

2852
02:31:10,511 --> 02:30:57,200
down back in 1952 stay with us

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potential disclosure that almost

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happened back in 1952 and before we get

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back to Clifford I've got some sad news

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to report here dickey betts the founding

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2950
02:36:11,620 --> 02:36:08,750
Allman Brothers fell and hit his head

2951
02:36:13,330 --> 02:36:11,630
he's undergoing brain surgery right now

2952
02:36:17,290 --> 02:36:13,340
this happened at his home he was playing

2953
02:36:19,779 --> 02:36:17,300
with his dog in Sarasota Florida at his

2954
02:36:21,490 --> 02:36:19,789
home and our thoughts are with dickey

2955
02:36:24,340 --> 02:36:21,500
betts one of the great you know I don't

2956
02:36:26,889 --> 02:36:24,350
Clifford I don't know if you were or are

2957
02:36:29,050 --> 02:36:26,899
an Allman Brothers fan but but for me

2958
02:36:31,809 --> 02:36:29,060
the band was just is so good right I

2959
02:36:35,529 --> 02:36:31,819
mean just just a stratospheric and it's

2960
02:36:37,090 --> 02:36:35,539
talent and and songwriting but I laser

2961
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:37,100
focused on dickey betts

2962
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:40,010
I thought to keep pets was or is one of

2963
02:36:43,960 --> 02:36:41,810
the most amazing guitar players ever

2964
02:36:45,309 --> 02:36:43,970
it's it's really sad you know to be

2965
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:45,319
playing with your dog and you fall and

2966
02:36:50,500 --> 02:36:46,880
you hit your head and the next thing you

2967
02:36:53,439 --> 02:36:50,510
know you're getting a brain surgery to

2968
02:36:55,359 --> 02:36:53,449
relieve swelling so our thoughts are

2969
02:36:59,979 --> 02:36:55,369
with dickey betts

2970
02:37:04,019 --> 02:36:59,989
now going let's get to this it may is

2971
02:37:08,819 --> 02:37:04,029
this our last document the one dated

2972
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:08,829
this is also stamped July 29th 1952 a

2973
02:37:18,479 --> 02:37:13,010
deputy director of intelligence subject

2974
02:37:26,679 --> 02:37:20,679
five page document

2975
02:37:30,069 --> 02:37:26,689
please note July 29 1952 claim time is

2976
02:37:32,679 --> 02:37:30,079
press conference the same time as the DI

2977
02:37:34,510 --> 02:37:32,689
te telling certain members in the

2978
02:37:38,529 --> 02:37:34,520
intelligence community I had no idea

2979
02:37:42,099 --> 02:37:38,539
what was going on this was the start of

2980
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:42,109
the major inquiry in done by the

2981
02:37:46,180 --> 02:37:45,170
intelligence advisory committee where

2982
02:37:50,530 --> 02:37:46,190
they were posing

2983
02:37:53,740 --> 02:37:50,540
heavily for a National Security Council

2984
02:37:56,230 --> 02:37:53,750
intelligence directive to be issued it's

2985
02:37:59,650 --> 02:37:56,240
live pay and this is a way it comes from

2986
02:38:02,200 --> 02:37:59,660
the of the CIA also so they considered

2987
02:38:05,970 --> 02:38:02,210
all these documents to represent one

2988
02:38:10,990 --> 02:38:05,980
document within itself well if you go to

2989
02:38:14,920 --> 02:38:11,000
the second page well before we do that

2990
02:38:18,551 --> 02:38:14,930
before we do that Clifford the the the

2991
02:38:21,580 --> 02:38:18,561
intro paragraph here is extremely

2992
02:38:23,230 --> 02:38:21,590
telling and I'm gonna read this then

2993
02:38:26,020 --> 02:38:23,240
we're gonna go to page two it says in

2994
02:38:27,430 --> 02:38:26,030
the past several weeks a number of radar

2995
02:38:29,620 --> 02:38:27,440
and visual sightings of unidentified

2996
02:38:31,720 --> 02:38:29,630
aerial objects have been reported

2997
02:38:34,180 --> 02:38:31,730
although this office has maintained a

2998
02:38:37,500 --> 02:38:34,190
continuing review of such reported

2999
02:38:41,610 --> 02:38:37,510
sightings during the past three years a

3000
02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:41,620
special study group has been formed to

3001
02:38:48,850 --> 02:38:46,210
review this subject that is an

3002
02:38:51,460 --> 02:38:48,860
extraordinary statement right there and

3003
02:38:56,890 --> 02:38:51,470
of course we can make many references

3004
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:56,900
back to majestic or mj-12 but they've

3005
02:39:03,490 --> 02:38:59,840
specifically state that a study group

3006
02:39:07,930 --> 02:39:03,500
has been formed to review the subject

3007
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:07,940
okay let's go to page two on that same

3008
02:39:16,120 --> 02:39:10,160
subject on the first page please note

3009
02:39:17,670 --> 02:39:16,130
this the study was with the old /si

3010
02:39:21,881 --> 02:39:17,680
that's the office of scientific

3011
02:39:27,870 --> 02:39:21,891
intelligence now on page two to go down

3012
02:39:31,450 --> 02:39:27,880
to paragraph four you some things that

3013
02:39:33,970 --> 02:39:31,460
the very last sentence there states

3014
02:39:36,131 --> 02:39:33,980
exciting two unexplained objects a great

3015
02:39:39,250 --> 02:39:36,141
altitudes and traveling at high speeds

3016
02:39:42,820 --> 02:39:39,260
in the vicinity of major US Defense

3017
02:39:45,640 --> 02:39:42,830
installations are of such nature that

3018
02:39:48,730 --> 02:39:45,650
they are not attributable to natural

3019
02:39:51,970 --> 02:39:48,740
phenomena are known types of aerial

3020
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:51,980
vehicles and of course this right here

3021
02:39:58,930 --> 02:39:55,450
was a letter being typed up December 2nd

3022
02:39:59,800 --> 02:39:58,940
1952 and it has one attachment that

3023
02:40:05,639 --> 02:39:59,810
won't attach

3024
02:40:09,460 --> 02:40:05,649
is a draft of the actual intelligence

3025
02:40:12,219 --> 02:40:09,470
directive the National Security Council

3026
02:40:15,429 --> 02:40:12,229
intelligence directive that they wanted

3027
02:40:21,130 --> 02:40:15,439
them to go ahead and make official by it

3028
02:40:22,840 --> 02:40:21,140
being presented to the NFC and get the

3029
02:40:24,370 --> 02:40:22,850
entire intelligence community involved

3030
02:40:27,309 --> 02:40:24,380
of course a state well not let's wait

3031
02:40:30,729 --> 02:40:27,319
until this client this border Santa's

3032
02:40:32,439 --> 02:40:30,739
the Robertson panel because they go over

3033
02:40:36,219 --> 02:40:32,449
some of these which then make their

3034
02:40:39,370 --> 02:40:36,229
conclusion I suggest at this time when

3035
02:40:40,420 --> 02:40:39,380
the director of the National the when

3036
02:40:45,340 --> 02:40:40,430
the director of the Central Intelligence

3037
02:40:49,769 --> 02:40:45,350
Agency breathe them he very carefully

3038
02:40:54,819 --> 02:40:49,779
chose his words making it clear downplay

3039
02:40:58,300 --> 02:40:54,829
the UFOs as being any tangible type

3040
02:41:01,000 --> 02:40:58,310
objects under intelligent control little

3041
02:41:05,019 --> 02:41:01,010
own they might be of extraterrestrial

3042
02:41:09,700 --> 02:41:05,029
origin and being good little boys they

3043
02:41:12,189 --> 02:41:09,710
did just that and the intent of the

3044
02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:12,199
panel wasn't to provide any conclusions

3045
02:41:21,939 --> 02:41:18,170
on UFOs whatsoever it was to be a jump

3046
02:41:25,479 --> 02:41:21,949
board so to speak to be the final factor

3047
02:41:27,760 --> 02:41:25,489
in blocking the National Security Agency

3048
02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:27,770
or the National Security Council from

3049
02:41:33,880 --> 02:41:30,560
being breathed officially I have to say

3050
02:41:36,639 --> 02:41:33,890
officially and blocking that National

3051
02:41:40,510 --> 02:41:36,649
Security Council intelligence directive

3052
02:41:42,639 --> 02:41:40,520
from ever being issued because this way

3053
02:41:45,429 --> 02:41:42,649
if it was issued the entire intelligence

3054
02:41:48,130 --> 02:41:45,439
community would be involved in the

3055
02:41:50,399 --> 02:41:48,140
investigation of UFOs they would have

3056
02:41:52,990 --> 02:41:50,409
their own protocols on how to do things

3057
02:41:59,139 --> 02:41:53,000
they would go ahead and compare notes

3058
02:42:01,809 --> 02:41:59,149
and by mid 1953 hard supportable

3059
02:42:06,790 --> 02:42:01,819
conclusions to be coming out among those

3060
02:42:10,300 --> 02:42:06,800
conclusions is one UFOs are tangible

3061
02:42:13,689 --> 02:42:10,310
objects they are under intelligent

3062
02:42:17,349 --> 02:42:13,699
control and they exhibit a

3063
02:42:20,889 --> 02:42:17,359
technology above and beyond our

3064
02:42:22,719 --> 02:42:20,899
present-day capabilities to replicate we

3065
02:42:25,959 --> 02:42:22,729
may understand some of those principles

3066
02:42:28,229 --> 02:42:25,969
and theory but we cannot go ahead and

3067
02:42:32,559 --> 02:42:28,239
make practical application as of this

3068
02:42:36,369 --> 02:42:32,569
8/2 in all probability these objects

3069
02:42:39,130 --> 02:42:36,379
originate from some other planet maybe

3070
02:42:41,499 --> 02:42:39,140
within our solar system or some other

3071
02:42:44,590 --> 02:42:41,509
planet within the universe and some

3072
02:42:48,699 --> 02:42:44,600
nearby lower just outside of our own and

3073
02:42:52,239 --> 02:42:48,709
that a major investigation should be set

3074
02:42:57,069 --> 02:42:52,249
up to determine what the nature of these

3075
02:43:01,380 --> 02:42:57,079
objects are and what their purpose in

3076
02:43:03,999 --> 02:43:01,390
being here is ie are they a threat or

3077
02:43:09,699 --> 02:43:04,009
are they friendly and something that we

3078
02:43:13,319 --> 02:43:09,709
could learn from the the concern that

3079
02:43:18,909 --> 02:43:13,329
Walter Smith had the director of the CIA

3080
02:43:20,859 --> 02:43:18,919
back then was it was direct he did not

3081
02:43:25,269 --> 02:43:20,869
he did not play around with his words

3082
02:43:31,329 --> 02:43:25,279
you know he wasn't dancing he very

3083
02:43:37,649 --> 02:43:31,339
specifically instructed that the CIA had

3084
02:43:40,630 --> 02:43:37,659
to get this intelligence reporting done

3085
02:43:42,789 --> 02:43:40,640
the the reports had to be solid he

3086
02:43:44,469 --> 02:43:42,799
wanted solid identification of

3087
02:43:48,939 --> 02:43:44,479
everything that was playing out in the

3088
02:43:52,989 --> 02:43:48,949
skies and that this was of the greatest

3089
02:43:55,659 --> 02:43:52,999
concern of the CIA and his his

3090
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:55,669
directives here are are varied to the

3091
02:44:05,349 --> 02:43:59,359
point I mean their direct Clifford very

3092
02:44:07,689 --> 02:44:05,359
direct he has to play like you're only

3093
02:44:12,069 --> 02:44:07,699
taking this concern or this period and

3094
02:44:13,929 --> 02:44:12,079
actually is taking material but he has I

3095
02:44:19,119 --> 02:44:13,939
don't know what the whole reasons are

3096
02:44:22,829 --> 02:44:19,129
but he has a direct reckoning to keep

3097
02:44:26,270 --> 02:44:22,839
the investigations alive and active

3098
02:44:29,230 --> 02:44:26,280
within the CIA with them being

3099
02:44:32,090 --> 02:44:29,240
the controller's of the information and

3100
02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:32,100
making the final call while directing

3101
02:44:38,560 --> 02:44:34,530
the other members of the intelligence

3102
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:38,570
community to go ahead and make benign

3103
02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:41,040
conclusions that they know are totally

3104
02:44:46,700 --> 02:44:44,130
ridiculous and totally right no yes he

3105
02:44:48,980 --> 02:44:46,710
is very direct he's saying oh my god we

3106
02:44:51,560 --> 02:44:48,990
really we need to get a handle on this

3107
02:44:53,200 --> 02:44:51,570
and we need but then they get all the

3108
02:44:56,330 --> 02:44:53,210
way up and this is all because of the

3109
02:44:59,270 --> 02:44:56,340
the efforts being made by the

3110
02:45:00,680 --> 02:44:59,280
intelligence advisory committee and he

3111
02:45:03,620 --> 02:45:00,690
can't go in and time ordering you to

3112
02:45:05,600 --> 02:45:03,630
drop this up if you can't do that so he

3113
02:45:08,240 --> 02:45:05,610
has to take it serious because remember

3114
02:45:10,430 --> 02:45:08,250
all the way to the president United

3115
02:45:14,510 --> 02:45:10,440
States they are taking it serious the

3116
02:45:17,690 --> 02:45:14,520
president wants answers so okay we're

3117
02:45:23,060 --> 02:45:17,700
doing this but it's all the way to the

3118
02:45:24,860 --> 02:45:23,070
end of 1952 he's already done the draft

3119
02:45:27,800 --> 02:45:24,870
of the National Security Council

3120
02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:27,810
intelligence directive it's ready to be

3121
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:31,680
issued oh my god how do we stop this

3122
02:45:39,860 --> 02:45:35,850
so it's suggested to the AIC on the AI

3123
02:45:42,980 --> 02:45:39,870
the IAC the intelligence Advisory

3124
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:42,990
Committee look before we take this to

3125
02:45:47,530 --> 02:45:44,610
the National Security Council and

3126
02:45:50,870 --> 02:45:47,540
request that they issue that directive

3127
02:45:56,060 --> 02:45:50,880
what we should do is have the giant a

3128
02:45:59,960 --> 02:45:56,070
scientific panel to meet and based on

3129
02:46:02,570 --> 02:45:59,970
their findings we consider whether we're

3130
02:46:05,990 --> 02:46:02,580
going to bother the National Security

3131
02:46:08,960 --> 02:46:06,000
Council with this or not and that right

3132
02:46:11,660 --> 02:46:08,970
there they blocked it they were the one

3133
02:46:14,450 --> 02:46:11,670
that went ahead and ignored all the

3134
02:46:16,910 --> 02:46:14,460
experts in the field and if you go over

3135
02:46:18,590 --> 02:46:16,920
that document please note that on some

3136
02:46:20,330 --> 02:46:18,600
of the case they didn't meet as a group

3137
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:20,340
of people bullying over everything it

3138
02:46:26,810 --> 02:46:24,810
was only three days and the stuff they

3139
02:46:29,900 --> 02:46:26,820
were going over the people who were

3140
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:29,910
coming in to breathe them these people

3141
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:33,770
were Pro major Fernet he was pro on

3142
02:46:39,450 --> 02:46:38,250
interplanetary spacecraft you will read

3143
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:39,460
in there were

3144
02:46:44,370 --> 02:46:41,530
my neck is there but only as an observer

3145
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:44,380
you can't ask questions he can't make

3146
02:46:54,360 --> 02:46:47,680
statements and until this document

3147
02:46:57,860 --> 02:46:54,370
service actually in December of 2000 the

3148
02:46:59,130 --> 02:46:57,870
document autism surfaced in December

3149
02:47:03,240 --> 02:46:59,140
2017

3150
02:47:06,810 --> 02:47:03,250
no one knew for a fact that was going

3151
02:47:10,740 --> 02:47:06,820
around the UFO field that high-neck was

3152
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:10,750
there and yes he was in it that document

3153
02:47:15,450 --> 02:47:12,640
before this one makes that clear he was

3154
02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:15,460
there but only as an observer because

3155
02:47:20,010 --> 02:47:18,010
has he been permitted to talk he would

3156
02:47:23,160 --> 02:47:20,020
have made comments and suggestions that

3157
02:47:24,540 --> 02:47:23,170
would have been detrimental to what the

3158
02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:24,550
director of the Central Intelligence

3159
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:28,150
Agency was trying to accomplish and that

3160
02:47:37,740 --> 02:47:32,410
was no matter what it took they had to

3161
02:47:40,340 --> 02:47:37,750
kill the efforts to try to get the

3162
02:47:43,620 --> 02:47:40,350
National Security Council the issue

3163
02:47:47,160 --> 02:47:43,630
officially the intelligence directive

3164
02:47:50,520 --> 02:47:47,170
now that being said was the National

3165
02:47:53,160 --> 02:47:50,530
Security Council advised members of the

3166
02:47:57,840 --> 02:47:53,170
National Security Council was fully

3167
02:48:03,120 --> 02:47:57,850
aware that some UFOs were interplanetary

3168
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:03,130
origin they were also fully aware of the

3169
02:48:10,190 --> 02:48:06,250
beatings that we had with our visitors

3170
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:10,200
and those meetings were necessary to

3171
02:48:19,830 --> 02:48:14,650
ensure that we children did not destroy

3172
02:48:23,700 --> 02:48:19,840
ourselves by misidentifying UFOs as

3173
02:48:26,760 --> 02:48:23,710
incoming ICBM our bombers from the

3174
02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:26,770
former Soviet state our visitors knew

3175
02:48:33,540 --> 02:48:30,010
this which is why they went ahead and

3176
02:48:35,160 --> 02:48:33,550
opened up the conversation and they were

3177
02:48:40,940 --> 02:48:35,170
the ones that determine where we would

3178
02:48:43,770 --> 02:48:40,950
meet and why would meet why how close

3179
02:48:47,730 --> 02:48:43,780
you know when we consider what we went

3180
02:48:51,130 --> 02:48:47,740
through since December of 2017 through

3181
02:48:53,740 --> 02:48:51,140
today with the way that the press was

3182
02:48:56,080 --> 02:48:53,750
finally covering this but like you said

3183
02:48:59,230 --> 02:48:56,090
and I've said this many times Clifford

3184
02:49:02,200 --> 02:48:59,240
they took their foot off the gas you

3185
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:02,210
know but it was covered you know I was

3186
02:49:09,100 --> 02:49:03,530
very happy about that

3187
02:49:12,070 --> 02:49:09,110
but it just seems that the the momentum

3188
02:49:14,860 --> 02:49:12,080
has stalled how close were we to

3189
02:49:23,890 --> 02:49:14,870
something just as extraordinary going

3190
02:49:27,480 --> 02:49:23,900
down back in 1952 we minutes away we I'm

3191
02:49:30,310 --> 02:49:27,490
gonna say just several hours away

3192
02:49:33,580 --> 02:49:30,320
because it was you know at the final

3193
02:49:36,070 --> 02:49:33,590
hour that this is already I mean they

3194
02:49:37,690 --> 02:49:36,080
what so far to make the draft and of

3195
02:49:41,370 --> 02:49:37,700
course the cover letter on there making

3196
02:49:44,770 --> 02:49:41,380
it clear which is contrary to what the

3197
02:49:47,440 --> 02:49:44,780
Robertson panel came out with that the

3198
02:49:49,511 --> 02:49:47,450
sheer nature some of these sightings the

3199
02:49:51,670 --> 02:49:49,521
attitude that they were at the maneuvers

3200
02:49:56,560 --> 02:49:51,680
they were doing that they were they

3201
02:49:58,930 --> 02:49:56,570
cannot be explained away by natural

3202
02:50:02,970 --> 02:49:58,940
phenomena or weather phenomena they

3203
02:50:08,650 --> 02:50:02,980
could not be explained away by any known

3204
02:50:11,801 --> 02:50:08,660
vehicle in short these are vehicles that

3205
02:50:13,780 --> 02:50:11,811
were doing extraordinary things that we

3206
02:50:15,190 --> 02:50:13,790
were not capable of doing nor with any

3207
02:50:18,970 --> 02:50:15,200
other nation on the face of this planet

3208
02:50:21,070 --> 02:50:18,980
capable of doing that's why they wanted

3209
02:50:25,630 --> 02:50:21,080
to have that National Security Council

3210
02:50:31,060 --> 02:50:25,640
and telling directive issued now move on

3211
02:50:33,940 --> 02:50:31,070
to December 2017 once again the same

3212
02:50:36,190 --> 02:50:33,950
thing we want to go ahead and we want to

3213
02:50:39,511 --> 02:50:36,200
investigate these objects that are

3214
02:50:42,780 --> 02:50:39,521
flying around only we're calling them

3215
02:50:44,740 --> 02:50:42,790
unconventional advanced aircraft and

3216
02:50:46,540 --> 02:50:44,750
we're gathering all the data we're

3217
02:50:50,590 --> 02:50:46,550
telling the people let's see these

3218
02:50:53,680 --> 02:50:50,600
things you know disregard everything you

3219
02:50:56,500 --> 02:50:53,690
believe and no report exactly what you

3220
02:50:58,301 --> 02:50:56,510
are seeing get as much as technical data

3221
02:51:01,500 --> 02:50:58,311
as possible and take film footage of

3222
02:51:04,010 --> 02:51:01,510
them take it if you can take to Liberty

3223
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:04,020
telemetry readings of them

3224
02:51:11,170 --> 02:51:07,520
take it if you can get radar writings

3225
02:51:14,210 --> 02:51:11,180
along with the telemetry readings to it

3226
02:51:17,809 --> 02:51:14,220
but then when the story breaks in the

3227
02:51:21,439 --> 02:51:17,819
news we downplay it and we always

3228
02:51:23,630 --> 02:51:21,449
thought that in 2012 no we didn't moon

3229
02:51:27,889 --> 02:51:23,640
dust and blue light whose names became

3230
02:51:30,740 --> 02:51:27,899
exposed in 1985 by the virtue of the

3231
02:51:33,229 --> 02:51:30,750
those code names being exposed they

3232
02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:33,239
change the names but the program still

3233
02:51:39,710 --> 02:51:36,720
go on why UFOs haven't gone away mm-hmm

3234
02:51:41,569 --> 02:51:39,720
right now people see you up those but

3235
02:51:44,029 --> 02:51:41,579
they don't bother to report them they

3236
02:51:46,429 --> 02:51:44,039
you know mentally tell them it does ok

3237
02:51:49,189 --> 02:51:46,439
this there's probably some type of new

3238
02:51:52,250 --> 02:51:49,199
craft or a spacecraft of the US or some

3239
02:51:55,639 --> 02:51:52,260
other government unless it is an event

3240
02:51:58,010 --> 02:51:55,649
of high strangeness it goes unreported

3241
02:52:01,309 --> 02:51:58,020
and then when it is reported it's

3242
02:52:04,279 --> 02:52:01,319
normally only local but you better

3243
02:52:06,319 --> 02:52:04,289
believe when the news comes out with

3244
02:52:09,309 --> 02:52:06,329
something and we know that something may

3245
02:52:13,219 --> 02:52:09,319
have happened there then we send out the

3246
02:52:16,309 --> 02:52:13,229
brush man say we send people into that

3247
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:16,319
area together open intelligence as we

3248
02:52:21,109 --> 02:52:18,479
call it on the sighting that occurred

3249
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:21,119
there and the people think well gee the

3250
02:52:23,599 --> 02:52:22,800
government didn't investigate this yes

3251
02:52:25,729 --> 02:52:23,609
they did

3252
02:52:29,240 --> 02:52:25,739
you had strangers that came in to your

3253
02:52:32,960 --> 02:52:29,250
town that we're selling toilet articles

3254
02:52:35,059 --> 02:52:32,970
are frozen food whatever but they were

3255
02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:35,069
oh by the way we heard you had a UFO

3256
02:52:40,010 --> 02:52:36,810
sighting here the other day what about

3257
02:52:40,580 --> 02:52:40,020
that and in fact that's not falling on

3258
02:52:46,399 --> 02:52:40,590
deaf ears

3259
02:52:50,179 --> 02:52:46,409
we still investigate UFOs and we have

3260
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:50,189
UFOs in space the whole situation is the

3261
02:52:55,309 --> 02:52:53,010
term fast walkers we may have changed it

3262
02:52:59,540 --> 02:52:55,319
now but that was an affectionate term

3263
02:53:03,200 --> 02:52:59,550
that we use for solid tangible objects

3264
02:53:06,469 --> 02:53:03,210
that was flying between a spacecraft

3265
02:53:11,630 --> 02:53:06,479
reconnaissance spacecraft normally above

3266
02:53:13,819 --> 02:53:11,640
the earth and taking photographs down on

3267
02:53:16,309 --> 02:53:13,829
the earth the object would fly in there

3268
02:53:18,130 --> 02:53:16,319
and I can't remember what year it was

3269
02:53:23,149 --> 02:53:18,140
but they got

3270
02:53:25,370 --> 02:53:23,159
almost 200 sightings 87 of the events

3271
02:53:29,929 --> 02:53:25,380
that were recorded there of the past

3272
02:53:32,090 --> 02:53:29,939
walkers remained unexplained today we

3273
02:53:36,260 --> 02:53:32,100
have fighters that go and try to

3274
02:53:40,040 --> 02:53:36,270
intercept unidentified aircraft are

3275
02:53:42,019 --> 02:53:40,050
uncorrelated target these fighters go

3276
02:53:44,170 --> 02:53:42,029
ahead sometimes they take guns camera

3277
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:44,180
for each of them that's never reported

3278
02:53:51,649 --> 02:53:46,640
none of that ever wrote that script it

3279
02:53:55,489 --> 02:53:51,659
reduced to a form called form 61 it's

3280
02:53:57,920 --> 02:53:55,499
filed that's classified secret copies

3281
02:54:02,540 --> 02:53:57,930
are majors can be sent to other agencies

3282
02:54:06,319 --> 02:54:02,550
that forum has held Verity used to be

3283
02:54:09,290 --> 02:54:06,329
the Air Defense Command NORAD that was

3284
02:54:12,849 --> 02:54:09,300
filed for six months at the end of six

3285
02:54:15,739 --> 02:54:12,859
months it was systematically destroyed

3286
02:54:18,170 --> 02:54:15,749
now did the report go away because after

3287
02:54:20,660 --> 02:54:18,180
the in six months that that form was

3288
02:54:23,090 --> 02:54:20,670
destroyed no the data was already sent

3289
02:54:26,359 --> 02:54:23,100
to the agencies that have active

3290
02:54:29,840 --> 02:54:26,369
interest in these sightings and they did

3291
02:54:32,479 --> 02:54:29,850
their part and they sent their raw

3292
02:54:36,349 --> 02:54:32,489
material to the office of scientific

3293
02:54:39,469 --> 02:54:36,359
intelligence at the DIA and they made a

3294
02:54:43,729 --> 02:54:39,479
finalized intelligence product and that

3295
02:54:46,099 --> 02:54:43,739
went to a few choice people very high in

3296
02:54:52,969 --> 02:54:46,109
the government that aren't necessarily

3297
02:54:54,950 --> 02:54:52,979
elected official the offer first off or

3298
02:54:56,689 --> 02:54:54,960
last off I want to thank you for taking

3299
02:54:59,330 --> 02:54:56,699
the time tonight we did two and a half

3300
02:55:01,700 --> 02:54:59,340
hours of document coverage that's a lot

3301
02:55:04,910 --> 02:55:01,710
of conversation Clifford so I want to

3302
02:55:06,319 --> 02:55:04,920
thank you in advance for that before we

3303
02:55:08,179 --> 02:55:06,329
start to run out of time here I've only

3304
02:55:09,939 --> 02:55:08,189
got two minutes I want to say this I'm

3305
02:55:13,460 --> 02:55:09,949
going to do this quick as possible

3306
02:55:16,729 --> 02:55:13,470
you're exactly right we had a mass

3307
02:55:19,429 --> 02:55:16,739
sighting four years ago out in Joshua

3308
02:55:21,889 --> 02:55:19,439
Tree couple of hundred witnesses more

3309
02:55:23,660 --> 02:55:21,899
than that behind me but let's just say

3310
02:55:28,030 --> 02:55:23,670
there was a couple other people standing

3311
02:55:30,190 --> 02:55:28,040
around me a video documentation

3312
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:30,200
and and so forth multiple witnesses I

3313
02:55:37,599 --> 02:55:33,520
turned around and went on coast-to-coast

3314
02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:37,609
primetime Friday night and spent a half

3315
02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:41,600
an hour discussing the entire I might

3316
02:55:46,540 --> 02:55:43,760
have outdone two segments the entire

3317
02:55:50,889 --> 02:55:46,550
citing when and where how it was done

3318
02:55:54,340 --> 02:55:50,899
a national radio I thought that I would

3319
02:55:57,760 --> 02:55:54,350
have been contacted by the media nobody

3320
02:55:59,740 --> 02:55:57,770
and I had told Rita as we were walking

3321
02:56:01,780 --> 02:55:59,750
away that night from that sighting I

3322
02:56:04,660 --> 02:56:01,790
said you know if we had Wolf Blitzer up

3323
02:56:07,090 --> 02:56:04,670
here right Anderson Cooper Bill O'Reilly

3324
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:07,100
when he was still employed would would

3325
02:56:13,090 --> 02:56:09,920
day after seeing this would they go on

3326
02:56:17,500 --> 02:56:13,100
and and report this and we both said no

3327
02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:17,510
they wouldn't and and so that's when I

3328
02:56:23,230 --> 02:56:19,330
decided to go on coast-to-coast and

3329
02:56:25,269 --> 02:56:23,240
absolutely report this out there of for

3330
02:56:27,820 --> 02:56:25,279
supportive air all those other hundreds

3331
02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:27,830
of witnesses that saw this right you

3332
02:56:35,650 --> 02:56:30,560
know and and to back up everything not

3333
02:56:37,570 --> 02:56:35,660
one member of the media contacted me and

3334
02:56:40,719 --> 02:56:37,580
that that that just goes to show you

3335
02:56:42,250 --> 02:56:40,729
where words really at and and you're

3336
02:56:42,910 --> 02:56:42,260
absolutely right I couldn't agree with

3337
02:56:45,820 --> 02:56:42,920
you more

3338
02:56:51,940 --> 02:56:45,830
and that's what I went through Clifford

3339
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:51,950
I know and okay and don't get mad at me

3340
02:56:58,360 --> 02:56:56,240
for saying this sir but we in the UFO

3341
02:56:59,800 --> 02:56:58,370
field could be our own worst enemies

3342
02:57:02,950 --> 02:56:59,810
because a lot of times for

3343
02:57:04,179 --> 02:57:02,960
sensationalism they'll go ahead and they

3344
02:57:07,300 --> 02:57:04,189
will report things if they know

3345
02:57:08,950 --> 02:57:07,310
absolutely isn't crew yet but the truth

3346
02:57:10,750 --> 02:57:08,960
starts to come out and what you're

3347
02:57:15,790 --> 02:57:10,760
talking about I remember that incident

3348
02:57:18,280 --> 02:57:15,800
it was 100% crew and I personally

3349
02:57:20,410 --> 02:57:18,290
believe that you reported very good on

3350
02:57:22,780 --> 02:57:20,420
it and what you were saying was 100%

3351
02:57:25,090 --> 02:57:22,790
accurate and you know the whole

3352
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:25,100
situation is had it not been for the

3353
02:57:33,610 --> 02:57:30,319
giggle factor and the media being afraid

3354
02:57:35,530 --> 02:57:33,620
of people laughing at him or not taking

3355
02:57:37,809 --> 02:57:35,540
them serious right that could have been

3356
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:37,819
a big breaking point for UFO disclosure

3357
02:57:41,740 --> 02:57:40,640
also yes yeah I thought it was I thought

3358
02:57:44,140 --> 02:57:41,750
there's this is too

3359
02:57:46,900 --> 02:57:44,150
extraordinary you know and we've got

3360
02:57:49,210 --> 02:57:46,910
multiple cameras and and hundreds of

3361
02:57:50,550 --> 02:57:49,220
witnesses and you know it's all right

3362
02:57:53,410 --> 02:57:50,560
here here we go

3363
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:53,420
nothing you could hear a pin drop from

3364
02:57:56,500 --> 02:57:54,110
the media

3365
02:57:59,980 --> 02:57:56,510
Clifford keep doing what you're doing my

3366
02:58:01,570 --> 02:57:59,990
man this is gonna get out and we're

3367
02:58:03,820 --> 02:58:01,580
gonna put everything out again tomorrow

3368
02:58:05,290 --> 02:58:03,830
of course is live radio right now but

3369
02:58:07,860 --> 02:58:05,300
I'm going to get all of these documents

3370
02:58:09,970 --> 02:58:07,870
out through social media tomorrow and

3371
02:58:14,020 --> 02:58:09,980
we're gonna we're gonna make sure that

3372
02:58:15,910 --> 02:58:14,030
this gets not only seen but heard thank

3373
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:15,920
you so much for leaving Mitch's anyone

3374
02:58:18,400 --> 02:58:17,600
comes to mind or won't and copies of

3375
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:18,410
these documents

3376
02:58:22,540 --> 02:58:20,240
I won't gladly give them trouble

3377
02:58:25,300 --> 02:58:22,550
somebody also somebody you're going to

3378
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:25,310
be retailing some pictures of me and you

3379
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:28,010
understand when you get them and you

3380
02:58:31,540 --> 02:58:29,840
know you know who's sending them to you

3381
02:58:33,580 --> 02:58:31,550
feel free to go ahead and publish those

3382
02:58:34,990 --> 02:58:33,590
and I had a colonel in the United States

3383
02:58:37,360 --> 02:58:35,000
Air Force on me those are authentic

3384
02:58:40,390 --> 02:58:37,370
thank you so much Clifford I look

3385
02:58:42,550 --> 02:58:40,400
forward to it okay and I'll be in touch

3386
02:58:45,220 --> 02:58:42,560
with you tomorrow but until then be safe

3387
02:58:46,960 --> 02:58:45,230
and whoever is up poking around to your

3388
02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:46,970
house maybe they wanted some documents

3389
02:58:52,420 --> 02:58:48,080
you never know

3390
02:58:54,550 --> 02:58:52,430
okay I'll talk to you Clifford have a

3391
02:59:00,640 --> 02:58:54,560
great safe rest of your evening my

3392
02:59:03,100 --> 02:59:00,650
friend thank you and you're there good

3393
02:59:06,490 --> 02:59:03,110
night and God bless right back at you

3394
02:59:09,880 --> 02:59:06,500
Clifford stone the absolute very best

3395
02:59:11,740 --> 02:59:09,890
and we'll have everything up tomorrow

3396
02:59:13,690 --> 02:59:11,750
and I'll put together some stuff with

3397
02:59:16,840 --> 02:59:13,700
all of these documents for all of you

3398
02:59:18,340 --> 02:59:16,850
that it'll make it easy for you to chase

3399
02:59:20,560 --> 02:59:18,350
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3400
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3401
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3402
02:59:27,310 --> 02:59:24,260
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3403
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3404
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3405
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02:59:40,210 --> 02:59:36,640
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02:59:46,660 --> 02:59:44,350
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3410
02:59:48,550 --> 02:59:46,670
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3411
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3415
02:59:59,960 --> 02:59:57,210
I am your host Jimmy Church follow me on

3416
03:00:04,120 --> 02:59:59,970
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3417
03:00:14,300 --> 03:00:04,130
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